[BTCC] BTCC 2022 season discussion, News and Rumours!

[Pdh]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

didn't he bumped into a car (at Croft?) BEFORE the race started ?

But other people have done that not just Hamilton

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

didn't he bumped into a car (at Croft?) BEFORE the race started ?

Remind us of the incident?

In R1 he finished 25th ahead of Halstead and Edwards.
In R2 he was running 23rd before an incident ahead of him (under the safety car) that he was unable to avoid.
In R3 he finished 20th, running ahead of Osborne and Plato in the latter laps.

[Pdh]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Remind us of the incident?

In R1 he finished 25th ahead of Halstead and Edwards.
In R2 he was running 23rd before an incident ahead of him (under the safety car) that he was unable to avoid.
In R3 he finished 20th, running ahead of Osborne and Plato in the latter laps.

I think he meant under the safety car

[S griffin]

I seem to remember that incident happening, but it's not like he's the only one who's had an incident under the SC

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Pdh

I think he meant under the safety car

Ah - that's what had confused me. The post made emphasis of the incident being 'before' the race.

It was a strange incident that, because Butel had already gone into the back of Edwards, before Hamilton went into the back of Butel.
If you watch the replay from Hamilton's onboard, you can see Butel's brakes come on the rear of his car lift in the air from the first contact with Edwards.

[Pdh]

Originally Posted by S griffin

I seem to remember that incident happening, but it's not like he's the only one who's had an incident under the SC

I think there was an incident at knockhill last year where gornall hit the back of neate under the safety car

[Pdh]

So Chilton and cicely part ways

[Matt K]

Not surprising. Honestly I think Chilton will depart BTCC as well.

[medius]

Coincidentally I'm hearing Charlie Martin has a test lined up in a BMW.

[porsche962fan]

so where can he go now ? maybe back to BTC ?

[Pdh]

Originally Posted by medius

Coincidentally I'm hearing Charlie Martin has a test lined up in a BMW.

Am I being really thick but who?

[Steel Wheels]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

so where can he go now ? maybe back to BTC ?

I would have thought Speedworks, Motorbase, Excelr8 would all be options. Can’t see him going back to BTC he didn’t get on very well there.

He did admit he shouldn’t have next Motorbase when he did.

[Pdh]

Originally Posted by Steel Wheels

I would have thought Speedworks, Motorbase, Excelr8 would all be options. Can’t see him going back to BTC he didn’t get on very well there.

He did admit he shouldn’t have next Motorbase when he did.

I was surprised when he left there, decent first season finishing 3rd and an ok second season and then he leaves just as they bring a new car out that was rapid from the get go

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by Pdh

Am I being really thick but who?

Had the same, googled and decided not to comment.

As for Chilton, I've seen some interview with him where he kept all options on the table - including staying at Cicely as well as leaving BTCC altogether. It seems it was his decision while Cicely might've been keen on keeping him.

[crmalcolm]

Cammish has already said that he is considering his options, and has a few offers on the table. Could he take the seat alongside Morgan?

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Cammish has already said that he is considering his options, and has a few offers on the table. Could he take the seat alongside Morgan?

Seeing how infamous the second car of Cicely has been, I don't wish Cammish that - however, on paper it looks like a great option for both sides.

[BTCC frog]

Originally Posted by Matt K

Not surprising. Honestly I think Chilton will depart BTCC as well.

I really hope he doesn’t leave the BTCC. Not only is Tom Chilton a great driver, he is also a great character to have on the grid. And he’s three years younger than Jason Plato was when Chilton called him ‘too old for the BTCC,’ (and 15 years later…), so he should have three years left in him

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Pdh

Am I being really thick but who?

MB Partners driver and regular ambassador on the BMW BTCC social media feeds.

[crmalcolm]

And just like that, the grid position clears up a bit more:

[Pdh]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

MB Partners driver and regular ambassador on the BMW BTCC social media feeds.

Could definitely do a good rumor there then MB partners and bmw tie up

[AJD]

Originally Posted by Matt K

Seeing how infamous the second car of Cicely has been, I don't wish Cammish that - however, on paper it looks like a great option for both sides.

Very true. When was the last time if ever Morgan's team mate stayed longer than one season? I'm in no way suggesting anything here but one car always seems to go quite well whilst the second struggles. Maybe they struggle juggling 2 cars with 2 drivers who may like different set ups. Maybe it's just a coincidence.

[Matt K]

Originally Posted by AJD

Very true. When was the last time if ever Morgan's team mate stayed longer than one season? I'm in no way suggesting anything here but one car always seems to go quite well whilst the second struggles. Maybe they struggle juggling 2 cars with 2 drivers who may like different set ups. Maybe it's just a coincidence.

The answer to your question is never. If we count 2018 as the first season when Cicely was a two-car operation (I doubt we can call such their partnership with Laser Tools, can't we?) the second driver was Oliphant in 2018, Rowbottom in 2019, Butel in 2020 and Chilton 2021. Apart from Butel, all of them proved to be decent peddlers in different teams whereas in Cicely they were absolutely nowhere. Doesn't have to indicate Morgan's car is better prepared just because it's his family team. It may be that for whatever reason they struggle to make both cars competitive.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Matt K

The answer to your question is never. If we count 2018 as the first season when Cicely was a two-car operation (I doubt we can call such their partnership with Laser Tools, can't we?) the second driver was Oliphant in 2018, Rowbottom in 2019, Butel in 2020 and Chilton 2021. Apart from Butel, all of them proved to be decent peddlers in different teams whereas in Cicely they were absolutely nowhere. Doesn't have to indicate Morgan's car is better prepared just because it's his family team. It may be that for whatever reason they struggle to make both cars competitive.

It also has to be remembered that, apart from Chilton, the 2nd driver has been developing whilst at Ciceley. Ciceley has been a great stepping stone for BTCC drivers to date.

[Matt K]

True, however I think that neither Oliphant nor Rowbottom couldn't really maximise their potential at Cicely - have feeling if they'd debuted at WSR and Dynamics respectively, they'd have fared a lot better and not only because of these teams are stronger than Cicely.

[AJD]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

It also has to be remembered that, apart from Chilton, the 2nd driver has been developing whilst at Ciceley. Ciceley has been a great stepping stone for BTCC drivers to date.

No I agree. You could argue it's one of the best if not the best team to get your first bite of the cherry at. It just seems strange but I did say it could just be a coincidence. Morgan is a solid driver and is always going to be outscoring and out performing a new driver to the series. Chilton is the odd one but maybe RWD was just too much of a different style to what he was used to in touring cars.