Motorsport quiz - Page 16

ensign14 · 11 Jan 2008, 17:14 (Ref:2104340)

No. Nothing like that. A genuine Grand Prix car in a genuine Grand Prix genuinely starting on a genuine front row. Not Indy at all.

Although it is from before 1950.

ensign14 · 11 Jan 2008, 17:15 (Ref:2104341)

And before anyone asks the Halford Special doesn't count.

D-Type · 11 Jan 2008, 17:25 (Ref:2104346)

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Originally Posted by ensign14

Who started his first Grand Prix in a self-built car on the front row?

Clarification please.

His first Grand Prix, which happened to be in a self built car? or
His first Grand Prix in a self built car, although he had raced in previous Grands Prix?

ensign14 · 11 Jan 2008, 17:54 (Ref:2104363)

The former, I think. I don't THINK he had any prior Grand Prix drives. Either way he was certainly the first driver to start a Grand Prix in a self-built car on the front row.

Super Hans · 11 Jan 2008, 20:14 (Ref:2104414)

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Originally Posted by davyboy

Maybe we should confine the questions to topics post 1970... when an era that the majority on this forum will be able to remember.

I don't think that would be necessary.

My knowledge of pre-1970 isn't too strong, but this is as good a place to learn as any.

rbs · 11 Jan 2008, 20:31 (Ref:2104418)

How about Marcel Renault in/on a Renault in the 1906 French GP.

ensign14 · 11 Jan 2008, 20:45 (Ref:2104423)

Already had that. Marcel had been dead three years anyway but in 1906 there were no starting grids.

There is a big clue there, btw...

rbs · 11 Jan 2008, 21:07 (Ref:2104437)

Sorry, meant to say Louis Renault, now the grid, was it one formed by ballot or by qualifying times?

ensign14 · 11 Jan 2008, 21:27 (Ref:2104443)

Aha.

Neither.

Super Hans · 11 Jan 2008, 22:36 (Ref:2104483)

Ferenc Szisz?

Super Hans · 11 Jan 2008, 23:01 (Ref:2104497)

Ignore that previous flawed suggestion.

I think I've deciphered that you're talking about the 1922 French Grand Prix in Strasbourg, but I'm afraid I've had no joy in finding the name of the driver...yet.

ensign14 · 11 Jan 2008, 23:16 (Ref:2104501)

MGDavid · 12 Jan 2008, 00:55 (Ref:2104529)

1906 French GP at Le Mans, Albert Clement in a Clement-Bayard. They all started on the front row , as they started at 30 second intervals.

ensign14 · 12 Jan 2008, 07:58 (Ref:2104593)

No. There was no grid at that Grand Prix. There WAS one for the one I am thinking of.

This chap qualified for the front row by dint of being an early entry. They hadn't sussed out how else to line them up. Then again, when the gaps were measured in minutes rather than seconds, it didn't make much difference.

D-Type · 12 Jan 2008, 17:24 (Ref:2104818)

Did the American Grand Prize of 1908 have a mass start? If so, is the answer Ralph de Palma?

ensign14 · 12 Jan 2008, 20:07 (Ref:2104882)

They started at one-minute intervals. Anyhoo de Palma was in a Fiat.

Super Hans is very close...

rbs · 12 Jan 2008, 20:39 (Ref:2104895)

Although Strasbourg was the first mass start GP I thought the front row was Nazzaro and Guinness so that does not work.

ensign14 · 12 Jan 2008, 22:11 (Ref:2104933)

(go back a bit)

D-Type · 12 Jan 2008, 22:27 (Ref:2104939)

A gentleman named Franz Heim drove a Heim in the 1922 Italian GP

Might it be him?

ensign14 · 12 Jan 2008, 22:33 (Ref:2104945)

No.

Another clue: the cars were lined up in rows, but did they ALL leave at the same time? Or just row by row?

rbs · 13 Jan 2008, 20:16 (Ref:2105460)

Could it be Marcel Violet, I thought he made cycle cars rather than real grand prix cars.

Super Hans · 13 Jan 2008, 20:44 (Ref:2105479)

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Originally Posted by ensign14

No.

Another clue: the cars were lined up in rows, but did they ALL leave at the same time? Or just row by row?

Hmm. Are you suggesting that the cars set off at intervals, meaning that all cars started from the front row? Methinks I have established the 'trick' part of the question!

MGDavid · 13 Jan 2008, 21:25 (Ref:2105511)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

Hmm. Are you suggesting that the cars set off at intervals, meaning that all cars started from the front row? Methinks I have established the 'trick' part of the question!

Not that, SuperH - I tried that suggestion in post 388

ensign14 · 13 Jan 2008, 21:41 (Ref:2105524)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Hans

Hmm. Are you suggesting that the cars set off at intervals, meaning that all cars started from the front row? Methinks I have established the 'trick' part of the question!

No - they set off, Noah-esque, two by two, 30 seconds apart. That is sort of the trick part. I don't think you can have a row of 1, there must needs be a second...

I didn't count the Halford Special BTW cos it was an Aston Martin really, plus given the width of Brooklands and the fairly raggle-taggle start it's difficult to determine whether there really was a "row" as such, and if there was only 1 it couldn't be a "front" row. Having said that the one that's the answer pre-dates the 1926 Grand Prix de l'ACF.

rbs · 14 Jan 2008, 20:57 (Ref:2106163)

I think we all need a bit more help !!!!

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