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What's the good of a one move rule when drivers take it to include one reckless move?
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What about a "no move" rule ? Or that would be confusing and static ?
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24 Apr 2012, 05:11 (Ref:3064634) | #379 | |
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I personally thought Rosberg at fault but am willing to accept that I was decieved by the camera angle and he didn't actually crowd Lewis off track, in that case Lewis clearly deserved to be penalised as he couldn't have completed his move without the four wheels off. After watching silly racing incidents attract pointless counterproductive penalties race after race over the last couple of years we now see a blatant infraction (by someone) go unpunished. I'm confused.
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24 Apr 2012, 09:41 (Ref:3064747) | #380 | ||
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Hamilton making a pass while completely off the track turns F1 into a complete farce. He should have been asked to concede position or receive a drive through.
Cars which are off the track should always concede right of way to those who are on the track. Also, someone should tell Hamilton that F1 cars have very effective breaks which can slow a car very quickly - when, after partially pulling alongside, it became clear he could not make the move, he should have stabbed the breaks and fallen in behind. Blatant example of the pro-British bias in F1. You could guarantee that if a Ferrari driver did that, he'd be penalised. |
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He didn't.
As I posted elsewhere, he took evasive action and yes, ended up all four wheels off the circuit *but* didn't pass until they'd come back on to the circuit. You could argue that he "gained an advantage" by going FWO and not smashing into the rear end of Rosberg's car, but the stewards weren't asked to consider that, only the fact that Rosberg apparently pushed Hamilton off the track. |
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24 Apr 2012, 11:12 (Ref:3064801) | #385 | ||
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When I first saw it on Abu Dhabi TV and listening to Five Live, the Hamilton moment made me yell out loud. But when I saw the same thing on the BBC highlights later, DC was a bit more circumspect. Was it because when they put the highlights commentary on they'd viewed it a few times?
It was the same thing with the Alonso phantom pit stop. When I first saw it I didn't realise he was using Kobayashi to open his DRS. Yet DC said it straight away. |
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24 Apr 2012, 11:47 (Ref:3064816) | #386 | ||
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This rule was quite unpopular, so this year IndyCar adopted similar regulations to 2012 F1. Ironically IndyCar has had more overtaking than before during the 3 first races of 2012, which shows that the "no move" might have not even improved overtaking. Was the "no move" rule safer though? Perhaps. After all 2 cars colliding at 100kph at a corner apex is less dangerous than 1 car going airbone at 200kph. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWCRCP6GO44 But on the hand, didn't it also make the racing "gimmicky", and less "pure"? Probably. |
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Offcourse that would be rediculous and dangerous, so just giving the place back to Rosberg would be a nice compromise. |
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nah, the beeb guys commentate live, it's who we get in Canada.
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Fair enough and thanks, it wasn't a critiscism.
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However, regarding precision: if you read the steward's decision on both of Rosberg's moves, they were *incredibly* precise in their wording. Which, as they were dealing with fact and not supposition, is exactly as it should be. The stewards weren't asked to investigate an off-track overtake, because on review of the incident - there wasn't one. If Hamilton had deliberately moved off the circuit, unprovoked, and overtaken Rosberg then I could understand everyone calling for his head on a platter... but he didn't, so I don't! |
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I thought this guy usually posted sense?
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Well, they did show that Rosberg did not force Alonso or Hamilton off the track. But now, you'll just have to take mine and the stewards word for that.
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