USCC (leave your axe outside)

[TF110]

Originally Posted by MrBloodmuffins

News just in!

Pickett is looking at both a p2 and a GTLM car
http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/ex...ng-gt-program/

My guess is an SLS or Bentley for GT-LM. If he's talking a GT3 car. To my knowledge Aston Martin is ruled out since they have a GTD car?

[chernaudi]

I'm pretty sure that the Bentley and the Merc are our of the picture as GT3 cars currently aren't allowed in GTE/GTLM. Some new manufacture will have a GTE/GTLM program, so who's been rumored to be looking into such a program? It's believed to be someone new to the LMGT game, after all, and I don't remember Bentley or M-B looking at such a program.

[Simmi]

Originally Posted by Maelochs

USCC was conceived in the mind of an ALMS fan.

That's probably why the acronym only lasted a few months.

[Dead-Eye]

White smoke rises and a voice declares: "habemus regulations"

http://www.racer.com/2014-tudor-unit...rticle/317060/

[Lagunaseca_4life]

Nice! Finally something to grab on to.

[MitchZ06]

Ncrdbl1 has already had his Grand-Am biased whinge.

[Christian Mogami]

Weight min for P2 is 960k!

They was already too heavy at 900kg,the ARX-03 was designed to weigh in the 825-850kg range.

More stress on the suspension parts!!!!

It's going to be funny watching the GT passing the P2 at some tracks and winning overall.

[jeast]

Originally Posted by Dead-Eye

White smoke rises and a voice declares: "habemus regulations"

http://www.racer.com/2014-tudor-unit...rticle/317060/

Le Mans aero for two tracks that's so random what a joke and higher weight why? I guess it could be worse.

[EricS]

Originally Posted by Christian Mogami

Weight min for P2 is 960k!

I think this is what Hindy was hinting at saying that even though P2 keeps their Le Mans spec, they will be quite significantly different/slower.

[Dead-Eye]

Thoughts:
- I like how they open up many areas on the DPs, though I suspect DP owners won't.
- Cost-wise, going with a proven P2 seems to be the more sensible option. Good.
- Seems like weight is going to be the primary lever for adjustments during the season. Easy to do, but I'm not sure how the P2s will like the extra load.

[Lagunaseca_4life]

I'm not going to complain about the p2 weight or aero that's much better than what I feared.im excited with the dp changes,aero,open brakes,open wheels,suspension, differentials,and clutches.hopefully they open up their silly engine rules.the price tag is interesting will teams go for a p2 will it be to much for some and just drop out? I mainly have spirit of daytona and shank racing in mind will they be able to afford two cars? Also what about 8 star and starworks with their two cars and the recent news of the freeze on Venezuelan money.even if we get 1 or no p2s I hope the changes stay fort he dps.i also hope they don't even think about touching GTLM's.

[BullMan]

Originally Posted by MitchZ06

Ncrdbl1 has already had his Grand-Am biased whinge.

He's losing his *poop* and it's hilarious. I'm sure he'll be on here soon with his TT account doing the same.

I'm glad to see common sense prevailed and they are making the slow cars spend money to speed up to acceptable levels instead making fast cars spend money to go slower.

Now they HAVE to slow down LMPC, though. They essentially added a co-pilot to the P2 cars with a 132 lb weight gain. Will be interesting to see how far up the field the GTE cars can get at Long Beach.

[Nick Woodbury]

Originally Posted by BullMan

He's losing his *poop* and it's hilarious. I'm sure he'll be on here soon with his TT account doing the same.

You should see his comments on the Racer Magazine article for the new 2014 Regulations, just the same regurgitated silliness that he has been posting since the start of this year. Just plain silliness I tell ya'!

http://www.racer.com/2014-tudor-unit...rticle/317060/

[jasonjessica09]

I think in the past couple races the ALMS is experimenting with something that TUSC will do I think. That is the split starts just like GA did. In this case I predict you will have one start with LMP2/DP/LMPC/GTLM together and the second group further back will be GTD taking there own green flag about 15-20 seconds later.

[kober]

If the starts were to be split, they would separate prototypes and GTs, i.e. P/PC from GTLM/GTD

[jasonjessica09]

Originally Posted by kober

If the starts were to be split, they would separate prototypes and GTs, i.e. P/PC from GTLM/GTD

I disagree, GTLM is a headline class. And not to be pushed back like that. I think what you see in ALMS at VIR and Petit is an indicator of that.

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by jasonjessica09

I disagree, GTLM is a headline class. And not to be pushed back like that. I think what you see in ALMS at VIR and Petit is an indicator of that.

It will be a headline class at ViR... but that is the only place it will have ever been the headline category.

[Salamus]

Originally Posted by jasonjessica09

I disagree, GTLM is a headline class.

A headline class does not have its polesitter starting 14th (behind three other classes) and have its winner finish 8th (again, behind three other classes).

Add the DP field and GTLM winners will start finishing around 15th in races next year.

[Ken_T]

At 960 kg, Tony Stewart and AJ Foyt can race a P2 as a pair and still need ballast.

They can even bring back the old race mechanics sits in the second seat rule.

[fanta4]

Originally Posted by Maelochs

Filed under Interesting Trivia—I met the guy who thought up the name for the series at Turn Six right before night practice. He said he didn’t care what they called the series so long as they got rid of the “Dumb Prototypes.”

USCC was conceived in the mind of an ALMS fan.

I think you mean USCR was conceived in the mind of an ALMS fan.

[Maelochs]

Well, really I don't want to think about the kind of minds which decided ALMS needed a dose of Rolex but ... I thought it was funny that the guy who coined USCR called DPs "Dumb Prototypes" and wanted the series to get rid of them ASAP.

Nothing deep in my post but the farm animal end product, folks ... move along and step carefully.

[chernaudi]

For those who say that this shafts DP teams, maybe you can say that Jim France signed a deal with the devil when he signed a deal with the ACO and the FIA and vowed that only minimal changes will be made to the ACO/FIA derived classes.

You can say what you want about Brian France and NASCAR, but it seems clear that in sportscar racing, uncle Jim knows where the power lies, and he's a businessman who, none the less, cares about sportscar racing, and he wants TUSCC to be a world player.

[JLGarcia]

Originally Posted by chernaudi

For those who say that this shafts DP teams, maybe you can say that Jim France signed a deal with the devil when he signed a deal with the ACO and the FIA and vowed that only minimal changes will be made to the ACO/FIA derived classes.

You can say what you want about Brian France and NASCAR, but it seems clear that in sportscar racing, uncle Jim knows where the power lies, and he's a businessman who, none the less, cares about sportscar racing, and he wants TUSCC to be a world player.

The party line elsewhere is that Ol' Jim is just an ACO puppet. It is to laugh.

[fanta4]

Originally Posted by Maelochs

Well, really I don't want to think about the kind of minds which decided ALMS needed a dose of Rolex but ... I thought it was funny that the guy who coined USCR called DPs "Dumb Prototypes" and wanted the series to get rid of them ASAP.

Nothing deep in my post but the farm animal end product, folks ... move along and step carefully.

Understood. My post was more along the lines of the series being very proud that a fan named it, only to go ahead and change it twice with little to no announcement, as if it never happened.

[chernaudi]

Jim's no puppet, but he knows why GA failed, why the ALMS failed, and what advantages he can gain by keeping a link to Le Mans. That was his motivation for this whole mess it seems, to have the ear of the FIA and the ACO and gain influence. Nothing more, nothing less.