WEC Porsche GTP / Hypercar: factory and customer - Page 189

Simmi · 17 Oct 2014, 17:24 (Ref:3465995)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

If he joined Porsche, who's seat would he take, unless they run a third car?

Could be a tricky/interesting decision for them. If a guy like Button or Hulkenberg came up ideally you'd want to give them more than a couple of races a year. But none of the current six have done anything wrong.

Of course if Porsche ran a third car all year that wouldn't be an issue.

blankfile · 17 Oct 2014, 17:46 (Ref:3466000)

well aren't teams forbidden to enter more than 2 cars for full wec?

Spyderman · 17 Oct 2014, 17:50 (Ref:3466001)

According to Radio Le Mans (MMS) Porsche will be running a third car. What I didn't catch is whether it will be for the full season, or whether it will be only for Le Mans (and Spa).

morningview66 · 17 Oct 2014, 17:58 (Ref:3466003)

Apparently Nissan could possibly run 3 cars for the full season, they will surely have 3 for Le Mans.
If Porsche bring 3 and Audi bring their usual trio of cars, pretty sure Toyota only have the budget for 2.

11 factory prototypes at Spa and Le Mans, i'm keeping my fingers crossed!

Deleted · 17 Oct 2014, 18:15 (Ref:3466005)

And you can never completely discount Audi from bringing the 4th again...

Sure nobody expects it, but nor did in 2012 (and 99 if you count it)

Rodger Davies · 17 Oct 2014, 19:05 (Ref:3466012)

I think of a current seat would go, it would be Lieb stepping down/aside/back to GT.

carbon_titanium · 17 Oct 2014, 19:24 (Ref:3466015)

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Originally Posted by Rodger Davies

I think of a current seat would go, it would be Lieb stepping down/aside/back to GT.

no way! lieb deserves his seat on the #14! No doubts abouth the fact that webber is the slowest porsche driver. In a perfect world he should be the one to drop... but unfortunately, webber is a great PR...

Spyderman · 17 Oct 2014, 19:44 (Ref:3466020)

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Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

no way! lieb deserves his seat on the #14! No doubts abouth the fact that webber is the slowest porsche driver. In a perfect world he should be the one to drop... but unfortunately, webber is a great PR...

Well, he was the fastest at Fuji.

TF110 · 17 Oct 2014, 19:54 (Ref:3466021)

Webber is also one of the only guys on the team to have experience at Fuji. Not sure any of them have the experience he has at Shanghai. Someone like Button brings that knowledge.

Rodger Davies · 17 Oct 2014, 19:55 (Ref:3466022)

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Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

no way! lieb deserves his seat on the #14! No doubts abouth the fact that webber is the slowest porsche driver. In a perfect world he should be the one to drop... but unfortunately, webber is a great PR...

I didn't say he should be, nor that I would want him to (quite the contrary), just that if one were to make way, it would be he. There are so many other potential roles for him within the company and he is the consummate professional.

I couldn't see it being Bernhard, Dumas or Webber, and the other two are quick young guns, so unless Jani or Hartley went to Nissan, which seems unlikely, then unfortunately Lieb would be the odd one out and the easiest to 'move'.

I doubt there will be any change in those two cars though, for what it's worth. We've always had these rumours about stars coming in but they are rarely true. However, what is almost certain is that Button, Alonso and Magnussen Jr are competing for two seats, but I still think whichever misses out at McLaren will have plenty of other offers on the table than just sportscars.

porsche91722 · 17 Oct 2014, 21:05 (Ref:3466041)

Is there room available at Porsche, if they are truly looking for success here? Surely one washed up, ex F1 pilot is enough!

Webber showed some good pace at Fuji, and the guy has still got it, when he decides to put the hammer down, but really..........?????
The celebrity/has been driver's name value(insert Webber, Button, next weeks choice

) to Porsche seems to be more off track than on it.
There's plenty of talent out there, that would be fast and reliable straight away, would come at a much cheaper price than Button, and give them a better chance of getting on the top step of the podium.

airbusA346 · 17 Oct 2014, 21:18 (Ref:3466045)

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Originally Posted by TF110

Webber is also one of the only guys on the team to have experience at Fuji. Not sure any of them have the experience he has at Shanghai. Someone like Button brings that knowledge.

Webber isn't the only driver with experience at Fuji.

Lieb raced there in 2012 and 2013, and won GTE-Pro in 2012.

And Jani raced for Rebellion in 2012.

TF110 · 17 Oct 2014, 22:48 (Ref:3466074)

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Originally Posted by airbusA346

Webber isn't the only driver with experience at Fuji.

Lieb raced there in 2012 and 2013, and won GTE-Pro in 2012.

And Jani raced for Rebellion in 2012.

I said "one of"

I knew there was someone else but wasnt sure who. Thanks.

deggis · 17 Oct 2014, 23:44 (Ref:3466085)

Don't forget that Webber might still have least experience in terms of kilometers because he was only released in January and first test being December, iirc.

JoestForEver · 18 Oct 2014, 05:02 (Ref:3466119)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Don't forget that Webber might still have least experience in terms of kilometers because he was only released in January and first test being December, iirc.

I think this illustrates the fact that ex F1 drivers need as much mileage as any other young talent to show pace in the LMP1 cars. In other words, they don't offer superior talent apart from PR value.

Simmi · 18 Oct 2014, 07:35 (Ref:3466137)

I'm not worried for Webber.

All works P1 drivers are really under the microscope but Fuji was a great step forward for him. I think he'll be a match for his team-mates next year and probably through the end of the season too.

That Porsche has hardly been a consistent barometer of performance given all the niggles that were going on with it. Seems like a lot of times they had to drive around issues.

Spyderman · 18 Oct 2014, 18:59 (Ref:3466260)

***Could Nico Hulkenberg be the next F1 driver to compete in the FIA WEC? Several media outlets have have linked the Force India driver to a possible drive with Porsche in next year’s 24 Hours of Le Mans. The German manufacturer is known to be evaluating entering a third Porsche 919 for the 24-hour endurance classic. -Sportscar365.com - http://sportscar365.com/lemans/elms/...rday-notebook/

carbon_titanium · 18 Oct 2014, 19:10 (Ref:3466265)

toyota is going to win WEC, audi won at le mans and however remains the best team... but it seems that everyone wants to run for porsche.

wolfhound · 18 Oct 2014, 19:46 (Ref:3466271)

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Originally Posted by carbon_titanium

toyota is going to win WEC, audi won at le mans and however remains the best team... but it seems that everyone wants to run for porsche.

Bit like F1 where everybody seems to want to drive cars with a prancing horse on the side of them.

carbon_titanium · 18 Oct 2014, 19:52 (Ref:3466274)

yeah... 10 years ago maybe...

TF110 · 18 Oct 2014, 19:53 (Ref:3466275)

Auto bild is the originator of the Hulkenberg rumor. Theyre just claiming LM only with him staying in F1. So Button, Hulkenberg, Alonso all rumored to go to Porsche.

They may as well spend all their budget paying for big names according to these stories.

deggis · 18 Oct 2014, 23:04 (Ref:3466302)

Auto Bild is a tabloid rag.

Apparently Eddie Jordan has also said it, presumably in some BBC broadcast over the weekend.

Spyderman · 19 Oct 2014, 04:45 (Ref:3466372)

Quote:

Originally Posted by TF110

Auto bild is the originator of the Hulkenberg rumor. Theyre just claiming LM only with him staying in F1. So Button, Hulkenberg, Alonso all rumored to go to Porsche.

They may as well spend all their budget paying for big names according to these stories.

If it is only for LM I don't think it will break their bank.

TF110 · 20 Oct 2014, 00:35 (Ref:3466621)

Alonso, Button and Hulk may be too much. I doubt any of them drive for Porsche. But I guess anything is possible!

Spyderman · 20 Oct 2014, 05:42 (Ref:3466662)

Yes, I think this is all speculation and it will all depend on the F1 negotiations currently underway.
I think perhaps the Hulkenburg rumor is the closest to actually being a fact.

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