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For once I agree with Jay, the basic problerm is, motorsport has to get started with the idea of finding alternative sources of founding.
Then we can discuss about many other things, but tobacco ban is a spreading reality in most western countries, and until they keep dependant on cigarettes, the problem will continuously occur. |
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Another source is reporting that Bernie is denying the reported drop of the CDN GP, and the beat goes on.
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Confusion over Canadian GP
The organiser of the Canadian Grand Prix has said the race has been dropped from next year's calendar - only for Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone to deny it. Race promoter Normand Legault told a news conference on Thursday that he had received a letter from Ecclestone saying that Montreal would not be hosting a race in 2004 because of national anti-tobacco laws. But on Friday Ecclestone denied that he has axed the race. "I've no idea where this story came from - the calendar for 2004 has not been put out yet or even considered," Ecclestone told the PA news agency. "I don't know what's in my head at the moment I'm so busy, but the calendar for 2004 is not out yet." His claim that he has not thought about next year's calendar flies in the face of claims by the US Grand Prix organiser that its date has been moved from September to 20 June in 2004. The Canadian anti-tobacco advertising legislation was announced in 1997 and the Grand Prix was given a seven-year grace period before tough new laws curbing tobacco advertising at sporting events are introduced on 1 October. Legault added: "Based on this situation, Mr Ecclestone has the legal right to call an end to the contract. "It's nothing personal. It's a contractual matter. It's an issue he had the right to raise and which he did raise and we're faced with his decision on how he deals with it. "But we feel, and when I say we, I mean by extension Formula One, have already benefited from a seven-year grace period for promoting tobacco products." Legault added that he the Canadian legislation was "a very reasonable position... and I don't feel justified for us to ask the government to do more than that. "It's not necessarily for the tobacco laws to be changed to accommodate the teams. It might be for the teams to decide to comply with various local legislation in the various countries they visit." He did admit, however, that the absence of the race would have "an important economic impact" and reduce tourism in Montreal. If Ecclestone has indeed decided to drop Canada, the plan will be met with dismay by many F1 insiders. The Montreal race, held on a track named for the late Ferrari ace Gilles Villeneuve, has been one of the most popular events since it made its debut in 1978. Spa 'back on F1 calendar' Last week, a Belgian politician said the country's race at Spa-Francorchamps would be reinstated in 2004 after a year out following a decision to delay a law banning tobacco advertising. The decision demonstrates F1's dependence on tobacco advertising - with Ferrari, McLaren, Renault, Jordan and BAR all having cigarette companies as their major backer. And it underlines the seriousness of the recent decision to go back on plans to ditch cigarette advertising. For years, F1 boss Max Mosley had insisted the sport would voluntarily introduce its own ban on tobacco advertising in 2006, in line with the plans of the World Health Organisation. But in June Mosley said the ban would be replaced by a "recommendation" that such sponsorship should end. F1 makes tobacco U-turn But with the notable exception of BMW Williams, who have a policy not to have cigarette advertising, F1 teams have been reluctant to wean themselves of tobacco advertising. Those who stick with it claim that it is one of the few sources from which they can access the amount of money they need to race, although Williams' success in finding sponsorship elsewhere undermines that argument. |
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Cleveland in jeopardy?
http://www.cleveland.com/autoracing/...2026178860.xml "We're going to re-evaluate [IMG] then come back with a decision [to renew or not] in October," said Adam Saal. |
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I guess if it's losing money, that's a problem. Hopefully a correctable one, and as long as the city doesn't mind shutting down their airport for a few days...
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If CART lost Cleveland, they might as well pack up and cease to exist. Cleveland fits exactly with what they are trying to do (temp circuits in large urban centers) and it's also a great race to watch. Running it under the lights just increased it's popularity. I think it's probably up with Long Beach in thier marquee event list.
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Problem is, it's a proven money-loser. And CART can no longer afford to promote the event itself. So, unless somebody else steps up to either promote the event or be a significant title sponsor...
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Haas Denies Move to the IRL a Done Deal
Newman/Haas Racing co-owner Carl Haas denied - albeit equivocably - that the team plans to compete in the rival Indy Racing League Series in 2004.
Haas, whose team won the ‘02 Champ Car World Series with Toyota power and driver Cristiano da Matta, considered a move to the IRL this year as part of his deal to release da Matta from the final year of his contract in order to join Olivier Panis on the Toyota F1 team. However, pressure from co-owner and CART-loyalist Paul Newman, coupled with the preferences of sponsors Eli Lilly and PacifiCare, resulted in Newman/Haas remaining in the ‘03 Champ Car World Series. Yet with the future of the Champ Car series very much in doubt, Haas is again mulling-over an IRL program for ‘04 and is believed to have placed orders for Dallara chassis . . . again with full support from Toyota. However, Haas says he has made no decisions on a Toyota-backed IRL campaign. “It’s an option, but I’ve done nothing in that regard,” he says. “I had the option to do it this year but chose to race in CART instead.” Should CART and the Champ Car World Series implode in the coming weeks, Haas will have little choice but to move to the IRL in ‘04. However, if there is a CART series, Haas says he plans to be there - and there only. “If CART goes forward, we’ll race there,” he said. “We’ll do one of the other, CART or the IRL.” |
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Marc Breuers made his debut in the Toyota Atlantic Championship on Sunday, finishing 12th in the 17-car field at the Grand Prix of Mid-Ohio.
Breuers reached an agreement to race for American open-wheel icon Bobby Rahal back in March, but had been idle while trying to find sponsors to fund his run in CART's developmental program. Thanks largely to local financial support, Breuers recently inked a three-race deal with team owner John Brooks. Breuers is scheduled to pilot the Brooks Racing entry in the final two events of the season, in Denver and Miami. "Everything kind of came together last-minute, and the race wound up being pretty much a practice session for us," Breuers said. "It was great to be back in a race car, and the weekend turned out to be a great, great learning experience." Breuers said it took some time to "knock the rust off" and to acclimate himself to the Toyota/Swift vehicle, which features considerably more horsepower and down force than the car he drove last season in the Barber Dodge Pro Series. "I came away with mixed emotions," he said. "Finishing so far back was disappointing, but at the same time we overcame some mechanical problems [a gearbox failure in practice] and I felt I worked very well with the team's engineers." Breuers said that he and Brooks are looking at lining up financing to step up to the CART Champ Car World Series next season |
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You just have to love guys who jump in over thier heads way too soon...
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A jump to Champ Cars next year seems a little too soon to me. He won't even get used to the Atlantic car yet. He needs to run at least one more year in Atlantics.
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he certainly needs more than three Atlantic races to be ready for Champcars... a jump to the series as unprepared as he currently is, could ruin his career.
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Re: Haas Denies Move to the IRL a Done Deal
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Posted: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 15:18 AEST
Gold Coast Indy set to go ahead Organisers say it is still business as usual for this year's Gold Coast Indy 300, despite continuing speculation about the future of the sport's governing body. CART has reported a loss of $34.5 million US for the quarter which ended on June 30. Gold Coast Indy general manager James Ashworth says CART has not deviated from the process of finding new ownership. And he says plans for this year's Surfers Paradise race are proceeding as normal. "At this stage nothing has changed from what we have been saying before, it is very much business as usual for us for 2003 and we expect to hear something from CART probably before the end of August or very early September," he said. |
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The Indy Star quoted a figure of a little more than $43 million this morning for the first half of their season....
If next year hapens, the article said that it will be 14-16 teams and about the same number of events.... |
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Yeah right.
14-16 teams? Nope. At least 22. 19 events? Unfortunately, I think less. 17 perhaps? Did the IndyStar offer any premonitions about attendance? |
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BTW- 14-16 teams would be an increase of 1 to 3 teams. Alright, things are looking better all the time.
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When there are threats against the other races I worry.
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There doesn't seem to be much else to talk about right now, so allow me to copy something new on ChampWeb...
"A current rumor buzzing through the air, has CART ADDING up to 3 new events for 2004. The events simply cover the United States in terms of logistics, consisting of an EAST Coast event, MidWest event and a West Coast event. All are expected to be street races. Now the question is...will CART drop any races? Rumor's have been swirling that Fontana, Germany, and England would be dropped, as well as Mid-Ohio and Laguna Seca. It is extremely possible that CART could see a "drop 5 add 3" to 2004, especially as they move forward in their business plan to bring the events to the people." I know it's just another story floating around, but where would you speculate the three events might be? For the midwest I'd suggest Chicago, but as for east/west I've no idea. |
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I would only hope that they don't drop Laguna and Mid-Ohio, two of the best road courses in North America. Chicago, with that rumor that's already flying around, is a good bet, and maybe that San Fransisco thing we heard about way back when is the western race. A race in the northeast, like the New York or Boston area would be good. At any rate, I don't think that even if they are looking into the possibility of adding three races that we will actually see three new races. Who knows, maybe a race in Calgary???? (nope)
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Dario out at agr, back to C^RT. Hornish in at agr, back to crapwagon.
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For San Francisco, they should go to Sears Point.
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