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3 Nov 2016, 00:39 (Ref:3684906) | #4927 | |
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Would be tremendous if they did. They would basically be paying to win the championship next year. the reality is that Ogier will win the championship no matter what he drives. He and Loeb are a cut (or four) above the rest
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3 Nov 2016, 03:42 (Ref:3684943) | #4928 | |
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Makinen already wanted him, but now even more and seems they're in communication http://sport.delfi.ee/news/auto/maai...ud?id=76135579
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I dont see the deal for not-to. It will be extremely stupid (of Toyota) not to explore this path. the best thing is most drivers for other teams are fully signed, so there is very little reason for them to look at Seb For the love of god they need to cange the Livery for that car. Just as horeendous as the one in the TS050 |
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3 Nov 2016, 22:05 (Ref:3685137) | #4930 | ||
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Saga Koei (Toyota Gazoo Racing): " does not change our initial plan"
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4 Nov 2016, 03:02 (Ref:3685227) | #4931 | |
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Interesting information on the hydrogen fc. Power vs weight is the biggest issue.
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4 Nov 2016, 06:10 (Ref:3685259) | #4932 | |
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Onboard from Shanghai with WEC App, Audi didnt lift that much but Toyota lifted and coasted a lot, which generally indicates diesel advantage although they are running on different progarams, but the gap is less than second.
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4 Nov 2016, 10:18 (Ref:3685282) | #4933 | ||
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Yep noticed the same, Toyota's were coasting a looong time at the end of the straight.
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4 Nov 2016, 20:29 (Ref:3685375) | #4934 | |
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According to their press release, they made no attempts at a qualifying run. They even ran on used tires.
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5 Nov 2016, 11:31 (Ref:3685476) | #4935 | |
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Seems 2 toyotas are stronger here than Fuji
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5 Nov 2016, 14:25 (Ref:3685502) | #4936 | |
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Man the TS050 blows hot and cold seemingly on a coin toss.
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5 Nov 2016, 17:54 (Ref:3685566) | #4937 | |
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I think Toyota only figured out how to make their high downforce package work during or after Mexico. Now it seems they finally know how to get the whole package working
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5 Nov 2016, 18:08 (Ref:3685571) | #4939 | |
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I still don't think the Toyota HDF kit works on a true HDF track. Fuji, Shanghai are not really high downforce tracks more like medium downforce. Toyota knew they would be closer as a result. We've seen this before. They almost won Spa and Le Mans. but were nowhere at Nurburgring and COTA
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5 Nov 2016, 22:34 (Ref:3685623) | #4940 | ||
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Pascal Vasselon (Toyota Gazoo Racing): "Le Mans had beautiful duels in the past"
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6 Nov 2016, 00:08 (Ref:3685649) | #4941 | ||
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If you go back to 2013, Toyota looked like they were way off pace with their high downforce package. They weren't as quick at COTA, then they go and put it on pole at Fuji, nearly won Shanghai but for a tire issue and won Bahrain. I think they just make a LM centered car and use whatever little resources are left towards the high downforce package. But it seems like certain tracks are better for their car. This year at Mexico they were competitive in the race but not over one lap, same for COTA. |
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6 Nov 2016, 09:26 (Ref:3685883) | #4942 | ||
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Toyota is doing a great job with half the budget of their VAG counterparties.
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6 Nov 2016, 14:10 (Ref:3685953) | #4943 | |
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What's even better is that they allegedly had to rush the project due to the sudden plan in changing of engine, and yet ended up doing a better job than Audi.
Now it seems they've found enough reliability. It will be interesting at Bahrain to see who lasts the distance |
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7 Nov 2016, 02:15 (Ref:3686099) | #4944 | |
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It looks good for them considering, setting up a really good challenge for next year. I wonder if they are really going to change the engine or if that's for 2018?
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7 Nov 2016, 11:25 (Ref:3686208) | #4945 | ||
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Autosport says José MarÃ*a López is joining Toyota for 2017.
Vamos Pechito! http://www.autosport.com/news/report...017-wec-lineup |
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7 Nov 2016, 14:00 (Ref:3686229) | #4946 | ||
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So who's out?
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7 Nov 2016, 17:22 (Ref:3686258) | #4948 | ||
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I think things could change from here to Le Mans, because with Audi leaving, Porsche and Toyota are talking about a third cars from each team to have a bigger P1 grid.
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7 Nov 2016, 17:44 (Ref:3686260) | #4949 | |
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And they still have Pipo on the line. Toyota is in a great driver position indeed
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Pechito needed a new challenge after walking the last three WTCC titles, so I think he'll do well with Toyota
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