No Dogs Allowed !!!

[olly83]

Even with a 'No dogs policy' you'll still get idiots who think it's ok to bring them and leave them in the car. every year for as long as i can remember at the Air Tattoo at Fairford there's a tannoy announcement calling some feckless moron back to their car in which they have left their poor dog. As it's in July it's usually boiling hot plus with a few B1 bombers flying past it's way noisier than most race meets.

[MGDavid]

wqell credit where credit's due - the MSA have it absolutely right going by the above quote from the book - recommendation not ban, all that's left to do is to encourage common sense not drive it away.

[terence]

Originally Posted by olly83

Even with a 'No dogs policy' you'll still get idiots who think it's ok to bring them and leave them in the car. every year for as long as i can remember at the Air Tattoo at Fairford there's a tannoy announcement calling some feckless moron back to their car in which they have left their poor dog. As it's in July it's usually boiling hot plus with a few B1 bombers flying past it's way noisier than most race meets.

I remember a few years back at Donington where a dog had been left in a car in blazing sunshine[yes it does sometimes happen there!].It was not in too good condition until the window broke and the dog taken out and dowsed in water.!!

[GTfour]

Originally Posted by GORDON STREETER

MGDavid Fair comment but as always not everybody thinks or behaves like the Dutch guy. I was a bit wary of a couple of rockwilders at Spa in the pits as they weren't on leads. I am an animal lover but I think you have to draw the line somewhere as dogs are not all the same and behave completely differently under the same circumstances. I wouldn't want to be the one that decides what type of dog could or couldn't be allowed in so I would have to plug for a complete ban.

As far as hearing goes,all dogs are the same(except for some really old and deaf smooches then). If you read my story thouroughly,you'd notice that I also described the exact location were this moron dragged his dog to.
The old main grandstand at Spa is right across the old pitbox complex. It's basically nothing less then one big old concrete channel thrue which the cars pass with well over 130mph,right in the top of their rpm band.
The Astons and Masers sounded earpearcing allready,but the Lambo topped the lot by mimicking a chainsaw cutting through the skull quite well.

Anyone how exposes a dogs sensitive ears to that kind of aural attack is nothing more then a downright sadist or has only two active braincells...

Oh and erm,the name is "GTfour"

[GTfour]

Don't hear me wrong here guys(and galls) I'm all against the avalanche of legislation of late,but for some ignorent and a-social folk it's the only way to protect their dogs. In my opinion,one should have to get a "doglicense" for at the moment every poser can get a dog to show of or to kick around without anyone questioning the owner...

[tatounet]

If it's not good for the dogs is it good for the kids ?
Ban the dogs, cats, kids and fox in the wood !
Isn't better to limit the cars noise ?

[mig]

Or maybe we should all race nice quiet electric cars pah! race cars are ment to be noisy and smelly.You go to meetings to watch or take part in racing not to have a quiet day out with your dogs.

[GTfour]

Originally Posted by tatounet

If it's not good for the dogs is it good for the kids ?
Ban the dogs, cats, kids and fox in the wood !
Isn't better to limit the cars noise ?

Limit the cars noise? Were are you from? Some leftish antiracecar environmentalist movement? READ my text! A fox would never be so dumb as to enter a concrete grandstand,my dear boy.

As for children,these are at the mercy of their parents wisdom and that's why one sees most young kids with hearing protection when visiting noisy racemeetings.

[Asp]

Originally Posted by GTfour

As for children,these are at the mercy of their parents wisdom and that's why one sees most young kids with hearing protection when visiting noisy racemeetings.

Mmmmm....

Back in a bit, just off to the Dragon's Den to show my "Dog Muff" (TM)

[terence]

Originally Posted by Asp

Mmmmm....

Back in a bit, just off to the Dragon's Den to show my "Dog Muff" (TM)

Should that not read "Ear Defenders"?

[sceptic]

While the MSA doesn't ban dogs, most circuits do, as has been said above.

Silverstone, for example, allows guide dogs for some meetings.

[Tim the Grey]

Why am I getting worrying visions of "Animal Lovers" and "Dog Muffs"?????????????

[terence]

Originally Posted by Tim the Grey

Why am I getting worrying visions of "Animal Lovers" and "Dog Muffs"?????????????

No idea Tim.

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by sceptic

Silverstone, for example, allows guide dogs for some meetings.

Would I need an extra seat in the racer for it !

[b1ackcr0w]

Originally Posted by tatounet

If it's not good for the dogs is it good for the kids ?
Ban the dogs, cats, kids and fox in the wood !
Isn't better to limit the cars noise ?

Somebody once said that common sence is merely the set of prejudices gained by the age of 18. I think this is bourne out by this discussion.

Think it through rather than just using so called common sence. It's not obvious to some dog owners that motor racing and dogs don't mix. So where ever possible it needs to be either banned, or where not possible (for instance, in places where there is a public right of way across the venue) make it clear what the problem is.

Contrary to "common sense" electric cars are not better for the environment or better/safer on the road. With current technology, you have to burn more fossil fuels to power an electric car than you do to propel an internal combustion car. And just this week I read an article on BBC's news site about how they're trying to make electric and hybrid cars more noisy because people can't hear them coming and are getting run over. Even the daftest kid in my neighbourhood hears my Intercooled Turbo Diesel 4x4 Chelsea Tractor coming and gets out of the way.

[Andrew Kitson]

There was a bloke at the 1967 BOAC 500 at Brands who had a pet crocodile on a lead - about 4-5ft long. I've seen film of it, a crowd of people around it in the paddock, at a distance!

I also remember an FF race at Mallory in the '70s, the drivers all trying to avoid a stray dog on the pit straight. Nearly as bad as the mad 'priest' at Silverstone but the dog was obviously frightened.

[Hepatic]

no animal of any type should be allowed at a motorsport venue, simple as that. its unfair to the animal (which in most cases are incapable of telling you they are suffering, barring dogs whimpering etc) and its a danger to the others on the circuit. Senna's incident with the stray dog should be proof alone that it's just not right to have animals at a circuit.