What next for Triple Eight in the BTCC - Page 2

davyboy · 7 Sep 2009, 08:31 (Ref:2535683)

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Originally Posted by Icebaby

I think 888 are simply open to optiona next year, if they sell the cars at a good price it allows them to look at the market with cash in the bank,if drivers come along and pay for 888 to run the car then thats not bad either.

What would they expect to get for each Vectra - GBP150K ? That's less than GBP500K for the three... that kind of cash would barely touch the sides for an organization like 888.

In my opinion, they would only sell the Vectras if they were not planning to run them next year. Building new Vectras [a model that's now obsolete let's not forget] at the same or greater cost to what they're selling their current stock makes no sense at all.

My gut feeling is that they've signed a deal with Kia or they're running the Volvos. If the latter, I can't wait for the 2010 season... those cars sound absolutely fantastic.

Speed-King · 7 Sep 2009, 09:16 (Ref:2535717)

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Originally Posted by redshoes

If you win everyone will just say you were racing against under-funded, under-prepared privateers who had no hope of winning.

If you lose everyone will say that you were beaten to under-funded, under-prepared privateers that you should have crushed.

From a PR point of view it's a no-win situation.

I am not so sure about that. Of course, we would see it like that, but for the majority the Kias would beat the Bimmers on track and that's what counts... I don't want to sound arrogant, but most people that go to races are a lot less informed than the people that post on here...

medius · 7 Sep 2009, 12:09 (Ref:2535831)

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Originally Posted by pinkd56

I Believe andrew jordan's Vauxhall Vectra is run by Vauxhall but owned by The Jordans.

Thats what I heard too David. Mike didn't want the same sort of failiures (lack of knowledge or general unexpected parts wear) that they had with the Integras last year, and it made sense to have 888 run the car alongside the other two.

That means that for 2010, Andy could be out in the Vectra again. Maybe with some 888 engineers joining Eurotech (or what is left of Eurotech at least).

Thorney · 7 Sep 2009, 18:12 (Ref:2536097)

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Originally Posted by pinkd56

I Believe andrew jordan's Vauxhall Vectra is run by Vauxhall but owned by The Jordans.

888 own all four Vectras (3 running cars and one chassis)

davyboy · 8 Sep 2009, 07:59 (Ref:2536412)

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Originally Posted by Thorney

888 own all four Vectras (3 running cars and one chassis)

It all points to them not running Vectras next year doesn't it.

**touringlegend** · 8 Sep 2009, 08:22 (Ref:2536421)

Just thinking - are we even sure they will be in the BTCC. The WTCC must be an attraction to them.

**GTRMagic** · 8 Sep 2009, 09:45 (Ref:2536455)

Its funny that 888 just signed a long term deal with Holden here in Oz, which dovetailed nicely with the Vauxhall BTCC works deal... and now it seems they are off to parts Korean, Japanese, German or other...

Sodemo · 8 Sep 2009, 23:00 (Ref:2536794)

Yep, WTCC could be a possible avenue.

Jamesy-18 · 10 Sep 2009, 07:09 (Ref:2537542)

Don't see why. The BTCC is cheaper AND more competitive.

**touringlegend** · 10 Sep 2009, 07:14 (Ref:2537544)

Point is if a manufacturer is paying it won't really matter to Triple Eight where they are racing.

kmchow · 11 Sep 2009, 06:34 (Ref:2538214)

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Originally Posted by touringlegend

Point is if a manufacturer is paying it won't really matter to Triple Eight where they are racing.

Unless they're running teams that are competing against each other? They wouldn't be given a Works contract to run Volvo and then also a BMW team for example. Though Reynard did design the Dodge Stratus and also the Ford Mondeos during the ST era. But Dodge and Ford never ran officially together?

The Tour · 11 Sep 2009, 10:05 (Ref:2538343)

Have I missed something? I hadn't heard of this until today http://www.pro1000racing.com/

redshoes · 11 Sep 2009, 11:55 (Ref:2538439)

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Originally Posted by The Tour

Have I missed something? I hadn't heard of this until today http://www.pro1000racing.com/

The idea has floating around for a while. Pro1000 is esentially a one make arrive-and-drive series using a modified race version of the Caparo T1.

I think Caparo finally realised that the T1 was all very good in theory but in practice was totally undrivable on normal roads and this was there only hope of actually selling any.

duke_toaster · 11 Sep 2009, 17:22 (Ref:2538660)

I think that one can be filed under non-starter if they think it will be profitable, use those and be televised on Motors TV! It appears that all T8 will do is run the cars and collect the cheques, leaving the individuals running this series to lose all their money.

davyboy · 11 Sep 2009, 17:54 (Ref:2538680)

The marshalls will need to be equipped with extra fire extinguishers when those things take to the track. They've an unenviable track record of spontaneous combustion.

andy_b · 11 Sep 2009, 18:26 (Ref:2538693)

I'm pretty sure Pro1000 is still going to happen and some dev work continues on the roadcar. They showed the car to the public much to early, before it was ready

duke_toaster · 11 Sep 2009, 18:29 (Ref:2538694)

The XFL happened, doesn't mean it was a success though (at least that idea had potential ...).

stedevil · 13 Sep 2009, 07:33 (Ref:2539416)

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Originally Posted by Jamesy-18

Don't see why. The BTCC is cheaper AND more competitive.

Cheaper yes, but please, BTCC more competitive than WTCC?

888 winning the BTCC is like stealing candy from a child compared to beating all of SEAT, BMW and Cheavy boys. Those teams have big budgets and resources behind them, and if they were easy to beat other carbrands would be flocking to steal the driver and manufacturer WORLD titles.

brands hatch · 18 Sep 2009, 15:21 (Ref:2543453)

well confirmed in autosport that triple 8 will be running 16 pro1000 cars next season.

It also says "He also confirmed triple 8 is unlikely to run VXR Astra's in the sport maxx cup"

so will they be in the BTCC next year?....im still not sure

**FIRE** · 18 Sep 2009, 16:21 (Ref:2543479)

Did they run Astra's in Sport Maxx?

brands hatch · 18 Sep 2009, 16:54 (Ref:2543486)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Did they run Astra's in Sport Maxx?

yes, three this year

davyboy · 18 Sep 2009, 17:46 (Ref:2543510)

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Originally Posted by brands hatch

well confirmed in autosport that triple 8 will be running 16 pro1000 cars next season.

It also says "He also confirmed triple 8 is unlikely to run VXR Astra's in the sport maxx cup"

so will they be in the BTCC next year?....im still not sure

Hhhmmm does look ominous doesn't it. Of the possible outcomes I suggested at the start of this thread, I was really hoping the departure of 888 wasn't the one

brands hatch · 18 Sep 2009, 17:49 (Ref:2543512)

right now, it seems their main focus is definately the pro1000 series...and with the withdrawal from the sports maxx, and the selling of the vectras, the departure of 888 might well happen.

Alfa Fan · 18 Sep 2009, 17:50 (Ref:2543514)

Them not running Vauxhalls in SMC makes it more likely they'll be in the BTCC with somone else IMO.

awrb · 18 Sep 2009, 17:58 (Ref:2543517)

Surely the SportMaxx thing with the Astras has been cancelled simply because Vauxhall are pulling out of that as well. It says nothing about 888's intentions to do the BTCC next year, just that they now have no connections with Vauxhall. Surely this was expected when VX pulled the plug on the BTCC. I think there's still a fair chance we'll see 888 in the BTCC next year.

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