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If you want to make a small fortune out of motor racing, start with a large one.
Silverstone (etc) started small and evolved into bigger things. Once you start to try and join at the top the costs become phenominal. If you regard motorsport at it`s very basic, you require a couple of miles of tarmac and some old tyres to make a barrier. So far so cheap. Now start chucking in hotels, business centres and other infrastructure and suddenly the costs start rising.You need to have an income, and remember you actually have to pay to host some of the larger meetings...you need plenty of punters to wander through the gates and buy burgers to cover these costs. Look at club racing in the UK. The spectator numbers are low,( shame really as there is some fantastic racing at this level), and I cannot see how a 750 motor club meet with a handful of spectators is supposed to generate the revenue to service the capital cost of this venture. ( And please note, this is not a dig at club racing in any way, shape or form ). I do not wish to be seen as negative etc, but I worry that we are going to see a Donington Park style fiasco, which does nothing but harm the motorsport industry in general. I hope I am wrong. I would love to see a world class circuit in Wales. I just am a bit of a cynic and don`t want to see more people put off investing in motorsport by more people losing more money. |
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My sentiment entirely !
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I used to travel up to a place near there for work on a fairly regular basis. Due to the fast road network it takes about the same amount of time as it does for me to drive up to Combe. I think this is an important point to make, it certainly wouldn't put me off racing there.
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Now looking a bit closer. Being recommended for approval by Blaenau Gwent councillors. BBC article
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that's an outline planning permission..
read it at http://democracy.blaenau-gwent.gov.u...ges/att232.pdf £418 million! for 500 jobs per year averaged over 8 years of construction The ES claims... “In summary, the circuit will transform expectations of British motorsport, and offer a much-needed alternative to the narrow and unsafe airfield circuits that competitors, manufacturers and spectators are used to encountering within the UK." Wonderful dream, but seriously... Silverstone's management must be quaking in their boots. later.. 4.7 Pit Building (Delivered by 2015); The pit building would be the main centre of activity during race days, providing a base for race teams as well as hospitality, media and race stewards. The pit building would have an estimated footprint of 8,856sqm and gross floor area of 26,568sqm spread over 3 storeys. The pit building would be a maximum height of 16m. 4.8 The lower storey of the pit building would accommodate 50 pit garages approximately 6.5m wide and 16-18m deep. To ensure that competing teams are able to access the pit garages the lower storey of the pit building will be taller. For comparison the COTA in Austin has 34 pit garages of that size (USA measures them as 60' by 20') The length of Silverstone's Wing is given as 350 m (unable to find total footprint, but it would have to be 25m wide to match the planned CoW) & Although the recommendation is to pass the outline. 23.1 Viability, or put another way the commercial prospects of CoW would not normally be a material planning consideration. The likelihood of a permission being implemented or completed is not usually taken into account when making a planning decision. Many planning applications are submitted on a speculative basis. Planning permissions are sometimes simply a tool for increasing land values and there is no intention of ever starting an approved scheme. 23.2 However, on rare occasions the viability of a proposal is relevant. (truncated) 23.3 In this case, it can be argued that there are sound reasons for refusing planning permission. These include..(truncated) 23.5 In my view, the Council is acting in the public interest to seek financial assurances when considering the merits of the scheme. It is important that the would-be developers have the financial wherewithal to deliver on its promises. Without those assurances, the balancing act of weighing the pros versus cons is heavily balanced against the planning application. A prudent Council should not grant planning permission to a speculative scheme on a sensitive site with no realistic prospects of securing the very aims that it is being asked to attach weight to. In my view, without the job creating element, the only realistic outcome is refusal. So, massive scam to get money out of the development agency to create the most minimal of motorsport facilities with a large photovoltaic farm? |
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