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If this was the case then DB would be concentrating on getting into the car, getting his belts seat drinking devices and all the other stuff ready, he would not be thinking about the brakes as he would be waiting for the advice and he would not be able to see the wheels and so couldnt see if the brake change happened or not |
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The fact he has a list of little things to do like the fluid hoses, etc is more reason for the crew to talk him through. Which they couldn't, apparently. I was disappointed with DJR all the way to Sunday and was very pleased to watch them work themselves into the race - and then it all went to **** unfortunately. Next year? |
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11 Oct 2011, 07:07 (Ref:2969079) | #29 | |
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did he, or is that how you manipulated his comment to suit your argument?
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and heres the worse thing, he would have been on the same strategy as murph and bright, but with a quicker car that either off them and ahead off them on the road and he would have fueled at the same time at the last stop getting the benefit of Whincups "lose your team mate bathurst slow lap". Murph finished 3rd. What could have been |
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You might want to go have a lie down. Seriously. What is so wrong with saying there's as much fault with driver as there is with team? This is a big pressure motor race and mistakes can happen in all areas, at any time. |
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I must admit that when the incident took place, and we got to see the replay and the analysis by the commentators, I thought it was a pretty stupid and basic error from Mr Besnard. However, it's interesting to see and hear the arrival and departure from pit lane as we do on the team radio's, and this is commonplace in race series all over the world.
Even the main game guys are told the basics from their engineers, when heading in and leaving the pitbox. The adrenalin would be flowing big time, so I can understand how this transpired. Lack of descent radio contact certainly didn't help. For poor Mr Besnard, I think he may be struggling to get another run with any of the teams. I agree with some of the previous comments made about the overseas guys. I am primarily a sports car racing fan, and have a heap of respect for David Brabham and Allan Simonsen etc, but these guys struggle, as would most of the blokes in the V8SC series, if they made the once a year transition to a different class of racing. I'm really looking forward to seeing the fantastic list of co-drivers coming down here for the Gold Coast 600, as most of them are from the top shelf of sports car racing, however I won't be expecting miracles, especially around that goat track at Surfers. |
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11 Oct 2011, 07:34 (Ref:2969091) | #33 | |
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because Mixer your comment is wrong
the team procedure fell over, the team acknowledge that and have come out and said that and have said it is not DB's fault next time they will adjust the procedure so that it doesnt happen But it doesnt make it the fault of DB which you seem so sure off |
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Probably in the same car. I don't blame him (**** happens and all at DJR know that) and I think he is in the top end of the list of available co-drivers. |
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Would expect the likes of David Russell, Tim Blanchard, maybe Chaz Mostert start to emerge as go-to people as they get a bit more experience, as well as any regulars who don't have a seat when the music stops come 31/12/2011 |
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However, people at National level remain absolutely convinced that they are on a plane far above state level and that the jump is insurmountable. They argue that the level of competition and the intensity, dedication and sheer talent is so much greater at National level. My own experience leads me to think not. |
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I'm stunned that David Russell hasn't got an enduro gig already.
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Stories around Bathurst consider that FPR are looking to run a 2 car Fujitsu series team in 2012, themselves... no word on pilots... but its hard to see that any of the 3 codrivers they ran at Bathurst would likely get the gigs... |
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12 Oct 2011, 06:43 (Ref:2969690) | #39 | ||
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he probably realised as soon as his brake pedal touched the floor, does not mean he did or did not know beforehand. |
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Is there a web site that gives lap times for both drivers?
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Sadly not.. the Natsoft timing combines all the laps, and unless you kept track of who got in and when, its difficult to unwind. Having said that, there is a printed document the teams get with that information on it, signed as approved by the chief timekeeper of the meeting. This information also appears in the Great Race books.
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Was wanting to see the lap time between a few of the drivers co/pilots. hopping to secure Terry a drive next year. |
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If you had the time, you could work out laptimes for the drivers based on the pitstops pitstops and when driver changes occurred.
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On one of the interviews I saw somewhere,
they were sayibg some of the top Fujitsu teams were spending more than some of the lower level/budget Main Game teams. Cant remember where it was though. But surely running 4 cars in two classes would not be 2x the cost as I presume you could use the same pit crew/ team etc to some extent. |
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15 Oct 2011, 22:15 (Ref:2971696) | #48 | ||
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Since 888 seem to be all promotions all the time, with the F1 comparo run at Bathurst, street launches in Brisbane, runs at the drags against one another, letting all kinds of drivers test the cars for publicity... you could argue that there is plenty of dollars in the kick, so a Fujitsu series program should be a doddle....
The engineering for the #80 car comes from existing 888 engineer Mr Russell, the mechanics are allocated specifically to the job... and presumably the running gear in that car is from one of the others, is race hardened (i.e. used..) having fulfilled its useful life in the Vodafone cars. The team had the spare chassis anyway, enlisted into service as it was earlier in the year by PMM after Mr Owen's liberace-ing of Mr Reindler... You could argue that most of the hard costs were absorbed as part of the Team Vodafone program, and the consumables were the only real variable... rumoured to be funded by one of the surviving LDG businesses anyway Other teams in the series have to buy the car, pay for the staff & the engineering (even if only on "flyaway" rates), rent a workshop, a transporter and everything else... The story goes that a bolt on Fujitsu team to a main game squad is around $200k a season, if all the gear is in place. Still a big number, but likely cheaper than Mr Jane or Mr Bates or Mr Emery are contributing to their teams' budgets... |
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