V8's on Perth's city streets by 08/Petition (merged) - Page 2

Chatters · 24 Dec 2006, 06:32 (Ref:1798616)

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Originally Posted by ausracefan

Just had a look at the proposed area for the circuit, not looking good.

I remember seeing a map a while back- Does it still have a crossover?

TSR · 24 Dec 2006, 06:33 (Ref:1798617)

Keep dreamin matt_015, the teams do not want to do the 13/14 rounds at the moment, let alone 16 rounds.But VE$A would love 16 rounds to boast there bank balance

Mickcals · 24 Dec 2006, 06:38 (Ref:1798619)

Well here is the layout of the Perth street circuit proposed in 2002 to host the Formula Nippon

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Circuit info:
Circuit length: 3.80 miles/6.20km
Circuit type: Permanent road course

Circuit history:
Proposals for a circuit next to Perth International Airport. The circuit developers had a contract to host Formula Nippon in 2003, but plans for the track fell through. Instead, the focus has turned to a new site at Bunbury.

http://www.etracksonline.co.uk/Austr...lia/perth.html

peckstar · 24 Dec 2006, 07:15 (Ref:1798629)

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Originally Posted by TSR

Keep dreamin matt_015, the teams do not want to do the 13/14 rounds at the moment, let alone 16 rounds.But VE$A would love 16 rounds to boast there bank balance

TSR that is a contradiction. the Teams own 75% of V8SA so if they dont want to do 13/14 rounds why would they suddenly change and want to do 16 rounds. thaey cant want both

maybe some teams want more and some want less

TSR · 24 Dec 2006, 07:26 (Ref:1798632)

peckstar it is pretty commen knowledge that VE$A want more rounds, but the team owners do not, so I really do not know were we go from here.

peckstar · 24 Dec 2006, 07:53 (Ref:1798636)

but the team owners are are v8sa thats what i am saying, there is minimal differnce between the two. what the team owneres want is what V8SA do

D.R.T. · 24 Dec 2006, 08:00 (Ref:1798638)

Put simply the teams 75% want 13/14 rounds. The remaining 25 % cochrane, cattach and co of vesa want more rounds as they'll get more money.

TSR · 24 Dec 2006, 08:02 (Ref:1798639)

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Originally Posted by D.R.T.

Put simply the teams 75% want 13/14 rounds. The remaining 25 % cochrane, cattach and co of vesa want more rounds as they'll get more money.

Thank you DRT that's what I was trying to say.

barney551 · 24 Dec 2006, 08:07 (Ref:1798640)

dont the teams share in the profits too.....?????? I dont think it is only one part of VESA that get the profits ... thats just down right dumb!!!

D.R.T. · 24 Dec 2006, 08:08 (Ref:1798642)

No but it costs the teams more in order to race more. It doesnt cost the other 25%

barney551 · 24 Dec 2006, 08:14 (Ref:1798643)

So i guess it depends on the amount of profit then ... doesn't it.

Can you enlighten me on the payments for TC Cattach etc. Are they on a wage ... or profit sharing. I would Imagine there would be some kind of profit sharing for them as well ...Any ideas??

D.R.T. · 24 Dec 2006, 08:19 (Ref:1798646)

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Originally Posted by barney551

So i guess it depends on the amount of profit then ... doesn't it.

No doubt and the current teams position tells you the story.

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Originally Posted by barney551

Can you enlighten me on the payments for TC Cattach etc. Are they on a wage ... or profit sharing. I would Imagine there would be some kind of profit sharing for them as well ...Any ideas??

SEL owned by Cochrane, Erskine and others are the 25 %. They would get the cut of profits. What vesa employees get I dont think has much bearing on the discussion

barney551 · 24 Dec 2006, 08:22 (Ref:1798647)

Costs are costs and obviously more rounds puts up costs for VESA so they need to be considered.

Guess thats why VESA are looking at the OS rounds where all costs are met by the promoter

TSR · 24 Dec 2006, 08:34 (Ref:1798648)

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Originally Posted by barney551

So i guess it depends on the amount of profit then ... doesn't it.

Can you enlighten me on the payments for TC Cattach etc. Are they on a wage ... or profit sharing. I would Imagine there would be some kind of profit sharing for them as well ...Any ideas??

And don't forget share intitlemants to

TSR · 24 Dec 2006, 08:35 (Ref:1798649)

Remember back in 2004 VE$A made a $400 MILLION profit so god know what they have made over tha last two years

Aquarius · 24 Dec 2006, 19:44 (Ref:1798850)

I don't think V8 Supercar Teams have a share of VESA, but I believe they have a share of TEGA. Although I think Mark Skaife sits on the board of VESA.

Aquarius · 24 Dec 2006, 19:47 (Ref:1798852)

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Originally Posted by billybanana

Bit touchy for aren't you ? I made a generalised statement. Anyone with half a brain can see VE$A will make more money from a street race than they will from Barbagallo - regardless of where the money actually comes from.

State the accurate facts and you won't get corrected

pete55 · 24 Dec 2006, 20:56 (Ref:1798872)

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Originally Posted by Aquarius

I don't think V8 Supercar Teams have a share of VESA, but I believe they have a share of TEGA. Although I think Mark Skaife sits on the board of VESA.

TEGA is 100% owned by the teams and own 75% of VESA.

mabs_nsx · 25 Dec 2006, 07:39 (Ref:1798995)

http://www.pimm.org/topicatlast.html

Probably a load of crap but it would be great to see International Motor Sport return to WA next year, 3 circuits and 2 rounds of V8's in WA.

Good to dream.

Raglanparade · 25 Dec 2006, 08:00 (Ref:1798998)

What would Barbagello have to do to keep the race ??

How many more Jag's and Land Rovers does he need to sell ??

cavvy · 25 Dec 2006, 09:00 (Ref:1799011)

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Originally Posted by TSR

Remember back in 2004 VE$A made a $400 MILLION profit so god know what they have made over tha last two years

Missed that report TSR - any chance you can find a reference,

Mind you, if there were 12 rounds that year thats in excess of $30 mil profit per round - yep TSR, chase up that reference please ...

mountainstar · 25 Dec 2006, 20:08 (Ref:1799123)

$400 million was the ANNUAL TURNOVER generated by V8's and it's teams, not profit. I remember the article vaguely about where all that was detailed.

TSR · 25 Dec 2006, 22:27 (Ref:1799165)

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Originally Posted by cavvy

Missed that report TSR - any chance you can find a reference,

Mind you, if there were 12 rounds that year thats in excess of $30 mil profit per round - yep TSR, chase up that reference please ...

My references were from the unreliable Auto Fiction that ran with the story a far bit when it came out, and it was also mention on the tentenths threads.
Sorry as I dont have the dates or edition numbers for you, but that were I got it form.

cavvy · 25 Dec 2006, 23:08 (Ref:1799190)

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Originally Posted by mountainstar

$400 million was the ANNUAL TURNOVER generated by V8's and it's teams, not profit. I remember the article vaguely about where all that was detailed.

Ho ho ho!!!
I've always thought the V8 crowd were rip offs, white sandshoes, etc but even Santa is skeptical about a turnover that equates to $35mil per round (based on 12 rounds, how many were there?).

Turnover, profit, monopoly .......

platinum motors · 26 Dec 2006, 21:54 (Ref:1799557)

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Originally Posted by Raglanparade

What would Barbagello have to do to keep the race ??

How many more Jag's and Land Rovers does he need to sell ??

The only thing that Alf Barbagallo has to do with the raceway is the naming rights sponsor.

The WASCC handle the day to day running and hiring of the circuit.

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