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Pity it is Sept 18th, but the Goodwood Revival will win for me as it is by far, the best motor racing meeting on the planet.
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I think it's also worth mentioning that we are now dealing with a circuit owned and run by Jonathan Palmer, a man who in the past has not gone into business ventures without a great deal of thought and planning, and not as before by Octagon who made several questionable business decisions.
Can I urge you to read the full press release on the MSV website www.motorsportvision.co.uk |
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I think the only improvements that would need to be made would be turning the gravel traps on the GP circuit into tarmac run-off... they would need to turn the whole system into something similar to the Paddock Hill Bend..
Tarmac run-off for the big open wheelers, and gravel for everyone else. They could just put the gravel back on top of the tarmac at the end of the meeting. I have a feeling the Barriers might need a bit of working on the GP circuit... i seem to remember a shot of a Vauxhall in 2002 i think, halfway over a tyre wall on the GP circuit... i could be wrong tho.. |
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The tarmac that was laid at Paddock Hill Bend for the Chap Car meeting is still there, under the gravel. I agree with you about armco barriers, but if that is all that needs doing along with extending some run off areas, then I can see the work being carried out quite quickly.
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Other than circuit alterations (which I suppose are unlikely) it is still possible to damage the circuit for the spectators (and marshals come to think of it) in other ways. Think of the spectating/photographing/marshaling problems caused by the sea of catch-fencing which appeared for Champ Car 2 years ago (some still remains). It would be a disaster for the GP loop (which pretty much resembles Goodwood with it`s comparative lack of fencing) to be lined with steel for evermore come September just for a 3-year A1GP deal......
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There is a huge difference between debris fencing and the fencing that was erected for Champ Car. I think you will find that debris fencing such as the normal fencing at all major circuits, will be required. This is a safety issue and designed to protect spectators from injury should any parts of a car come adrift follwoing an accident. I don't see debris fence spoiling the viewing pleasure of the spectator any more tha it does on the Indy Circuit. The Champ Car fencing has by and large disappeared now.
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I`m always confused as to what can be done on the GP circuit - what with it being "Ancient Woodland".
I am assuming that the reason why spectators wishing to walk from Stirlings entry to Sheene`s curve have to clamber through bushes and trees is that a more adequate path cannot be cut because it would involve removing further trees. Extending runoff surely involves pushing barriers back into the trees - I`m really not sure that cutting down trees around the outside of the GP loop is an easily done thing?? That said, from my personal experiences a Council will give permission for whatever pleases them - irrelevant of such tags as "Preservation/Conservation Areas". |
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Indeed the Champ Car fencing has almost gone - the inside of Druids is, however still spoiled by it. As I said, to line the inside of the GP loop with permanent fencing - even though only 1 race per year requires it, would be a terrible shame. I spectate regularly on the inside of Druids and the GP loop and the fencing has never been needed. If one race per year dictates the need for additional fencing in some areas then those areas should be made "no-go" for spectators on that weekend.
Stephen, as a marshal you are rarely behind safety fences. There are a large group of people, including all the amateur snappers out there, which value very highly the little gem-like bits of all motor racing crcuits across the country where you can evade safety fences. Each circuit has them. The regulars and enthusiasts find them out and know them well - however there are just not that many left. |
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I appreciate that Elio but in the end they are there for your protection and safety!
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Indeed they are, but like you admit - the Indy circuit already has the Grade 2 FIA licence. This is without blanket debris fencing - eg. Druids exit on the inside (extremely safe especially now the run off has been extended) and Surtees on the inside (I recall no incidents EVER involving cars/debris crossing the armco on the INSIDE of Surtees).
Of course it would be plain silly not to have fences along, say, Brabham straight or the outside of Paddock. It`s a simple process of weighing up the situation in a cost versus benefit way though. If possible Champcar-style fencing should be used - it can then be removed afterwards. That said, I`m not quite sure what the Champcar style fencing would actually stop!! It must be presumed to have some benefits by MSV though as they`ve left 2/3thrds of the Druids enclosure shrouded in it and also the Brabham straight section on the inside between pit-out and Paddock bend. |
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The Champ style fencing wouldn't stop a great deal as it is attached to the wooden posts that hold the armco up. I doubt you will see fencing of that sort on the GP circuit. If there is any fencing erected it is more likely to be the sort on the outside of Druids, proper debris fence.
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Prices for tickets have yet to be announced but you can still buy season passes at the same price as they were before this announcement.
Therefore you can get a season pass that would include A1 GP, World and British superbikes and BTCC races (and any other Car and bike events) for just £125. Even more of a bargain though is the Gold Pass which includes hospitality for every single bike and car event overlooking the home straight for just £375. Check out the prices for that sort of hospitality at the British F1 race! I reckon that's a bit of a steal, it's one not to miss before any prices are 'revised'. Have a look at MotorSport Vision's website Last edited by Daf_Loz; 17 Jan 2005 at 14:27. |
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I agree Daf, that's a bloody good deal!
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Anybody got any ideas about potential drivers. Particulally who will be the british one?
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Justin Wilson ?
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ralph firman i throught was the testing driver so maybe him as he will know the car more than most.
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is there any chance of the likes of Lewis Hamilton, Alex Lloyd or Jamie Green doing it?
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Rob, in these days of litigation the circuit owners have to protect themselves. I think you will find too that debris fencing is also a requirement of the circuit licence and so the MSA/FIM/FIA also have a say in what has to be provided. Surely it is better to have your view restricted a little and be safe than put your life at risk?
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