Plum Pudding races, Merged

[alan-g]

Ian, I would be happy to lapchart for you in the warmth of your little room; BUT............the CoC wants (needs ?) me to be closer to the chequered flag.

Adam, finals arrived yesterday.

[Dave Brand]

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Do we know when sign on is yet, or even the timetable? I

Sign on:

Caterhams 08.15 - 08.45

Sports & Saloons 08.45 - 09.15

Scrutineering:


Caterhams 08.30 - 09.30

Sports & Saloons 09.00 - 10.00

Car racing round one starts at 12.00 noon approx, round two at 14.00 approx, one 15-minute race for each class in each round.

(No times for practice sessions on the finals - probably depends how soon the frost/ice/snow melts!)

[Adam43]

Thank you
I guess it'll drop through my door tomorrow!

[Ian Sowman]

Qually usually starts with the cars at 10am, so I'd guess Caterhams at 10:00 and S&S at 10:20, subject to the weather.

[ascarracinguk]

anyone got a final grid list for the sports an saloons by any chance?

[Adam43]

Yep, give a few minutes and I'll be able to scan it...

[Adam43]

Car No	Driver	Car and Tvpe	CC
	Sports and Saloon Cars
4	Thomas Lailey de Ville	Ford Anglia	1498
44	Cliff Ryan (Race I)	Austin A35	1293
44	Daniel Ryan (Race 2)	Austin A35	1293
77	Richard Sprigg	Ford Anglia lO5E	1558
78	Robert Strutt	Morris Minor	948
	Saloons UP to 1700cc
11	Will Sharpe	MG Midget	1275
18	Chris Lester	Ford Fiesta	1600
21	Carl Swan	Peugeot 106XSi	1600
85	Stuart Herriott	Citroen Saxo	1600
	Saloons over 1700cc
47	Andy Sharpe	MG Maestro	2000
59	Peter Felix	Renault Clio	2000
62	Tim Watson	Ford Fiesta	1997
71	Ben Short	MG Maestro	1989
81	Andy Thompson	Seat Leon	1800
99	Mark Hunt	Seat Cupra	1998
	Sports Cars UP to 2000cc
1	Andy McMillan	Triumph TR4	2000
43	Adam Ashmore	MGB	1950
77	Kevin Middleton	Mazda MX5	1600
96	Mark Pierpoint	Mazda MX5	1600
	Sports Cars 2oo1cc and Over
12	Shawn Taylor	BMW 325	2500
37	Tony Lees	Morgan Plus 8	3900
69	James Colada	Nissan 350Z	3500
80	Paul White	MGB GT	3900
	Sports Racing Cars
14	Steve Hodges	Pedrazza Pro '07	2000
14	Will Hodges	Pedrazza Pro '07	2000

[pugracer2]

mmmm just searched Google images for Pedrazza pro 07.... Think I'd better leave the heater out to save weight.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by pugracer2

mmmm just searched Google images for Pedrazza pro 07.... Think I'd better leave the heater out to save weight.

We should all take our heaters out and put them in the back of the Pedrazza!
If it had a back to put them in.

[TIMELORD]

Here's a few shots of the Pedrazza from the Hodges' website:
http://www.racingbloke.com/RacingBloke/vehicle2.htm

It lapped the Brands Indy circuit in 49.5s and Snetterton in 69.0s... I reckon it should manage 45.0-47.0s around Mallory.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by pugracer2

mmmm just searched Google images for Pedrazza pro 07.... Think I'd better leave the heater out to save weight.

Have you entered then, am I missing you from the entry list?

[Ian Sowman]

This is the final list:

No.	Driver	Car	cc	Entrant
	Classic Saloons
4	Thomas Lailey de Ville	Ford Anglia	1498		Boston
44	Cliff Ryan (Race 1)	Austin A35	1293		Watford
44	Daniel Ryan (Race 2)	Austin A35	1293		Watford
77	Richard Sprigg	Ford Anglia 105E	1558	Team Double Trouble	Bidford on Avon
78	Robert Strutt	Morris Minor	948	Team Double Trouble	Redditch
	Saloons up to 1700cc
18	Chris Lester	Ford Fiesta	1600	Mill Street Motors	Hinckley
21	Carl Swan	Peugeot 106XSi	1600	Swan Racing	Rugby
85	Stuart Herriott	Citroen Saxo	1600		Milton Keynes
111	David Brazell	Peugeot 205 GTi	1600		Towcester
	Saloons over 1700cc
12	Shawn Taylor	BMW 325	2500	Shawn Taylor Racing	Sydney Aust.
17	Alex Ferguson	Peugeot 205GTi	2050		Weston Super Mare
47	Andy Sharpe	MG Maestro	2000	Waysideadhesives.com	Leicester
59	Peter Felix	Renault Clio	2000		Derby
62	Tim Watson	Ford Fiesta	1997	Mill Street Motors	Earl Shilton
68	Lee Sullivan	MG Maestro	2000		Stanwell
70	Dean Sullivan	MG Maestro	2000		Stanwell
71	Ben Short	MG Maestro	1989	B S Motor Sport	Mere
81	Andy Thompson	Seat Leon	1800		Oakhanger
99	Mark Hunt	Seat Cupra	1998	Team Pyro	Barwell
	Sports Cars Up to 2000cc
1	Andy McMillan	Triumph TR4	2000	McMillan Motor Sport	Hinckley
11	Will Sharpe	MG Midget	1275	Waysideadhesives.com	Nottingham
26	Mark Witherington	MGB GT	1800	Angrave Motorsport	Marefield
43	Adam Ashmore	MGB	1950		Bedfordshire
7	Kevin Middleton	Mazda Mx5	1600	Keystone Computor Group	Church Gresley
96	Mark Pierpoint	Mazda Mx5	1600	Team Robinson	Lutterworth
	Sports Cars 2001cc and Over
6	Martin Astley	Jaguar D Type Replica	4200		Telford
37	Tony Lees	Morgan Plus 8	3900		Arnesby
69	James Colada	Nissan 350Z	3500	Shawn Taylor Racing	Pershore
80	Paul White	MGB GT	3900	A1 Rally Sport	Hitchin
	Sports Racing Cars
14	Steve Hodges (Race 1)	Pedrazza Pro ’07	2000		Northill
14	Will Hodges (Race 2)	Pedrazza Pro ’07	2000		Northill

[Adam43]

Ah, I now see a 205

and more MGs!

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Latest satelite image (this should update in the thread!):

It does update!

Latest: http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?id=2470
6deg C (42 deg F).

[TIMELORD]

Thoroughly enjoyed watching today's racing. The second Sports and Saloons race was a cracker. I was spectating up at Shaws, so couldn't see what happened on the last lap. Peter Felix was leading, followed by Andy Thompson and Will Hodges (after a demon late-breaking move from Thompson into the hairpin after Hodges stole second from him briefly). Then, all of a sudden, Hodges was in front. What happened to Felix and Thompson at Gerards?

After Steve Hodges won race one, coming through impressively from 19th on the grid, it was a surprise that Will Hodges didn't run away with the second race in the Pedrazza, starting on the front row. He seemed to be tip-toeing through the traffic, whereas Felix and Thompson were thumping their past the slower cars - which was great to watch! Was it just careful driving, or did the Pedrazza have a problem in the second race?

The Caterhams were also entertaining, with Jamie Ellwood winning both races from Nick Frost, the first race after he started second from last. Race two was more comfortable for him, as he started on the front row, whereas Frost found it more difficult to make up places early on and never really looked like challenging for the win.

The Plum Pudding Meeting gave me a much-needed racing 'fix'- It was surprising to see that most of the spectators seemed to be bike fans. The four-wheeled fans don't know what they're missing!

SPORTS AND SALOONS: Race 1
1 Steve Hodges (Pedrazza)
2 Mark Hunt (Seat Cupra)
3 Tim Watson (Ford Fiesta)
4 Andy Thompson (Seat Leon)
5 Peter Felix (Renault Clio)
6 Tony Lees (Morgan Plus 8)

SPORTS AND SALOONS: Race 2
1 Will Hodges (Pedrazza)
2 Peter Felix (Renault Clio)
3 Andy Thompson (Seat Leon)
4 Tim Watson (Ford Fiesta)
5 Tony Lees (Morgan Plus 8)
6 Martin Astley (Jaguar D Type)

CATERHAMS: Race 1
1 Jamie Ellwood
2 Nick Frost
3 Andrew Russell
4 Tom Overton
5 Gareth Thomas
6 Graeme Smith

CATERHAMS: Race 2
1 Jamie Ellwood
2 Nick Frost
3 Tom Overton
4 Andrew Russell
5 Alwynn Morris
6 Tim Jump

[pugracer2]

Had a brilliant meeting. Started at the back of the saloon grid in both races and finished 7th then 8th....great fun, best Boxing Day ever. Good fun watching the bike races too.

[IAN #51]

Went myself today and really enjoyed it i was quite taken aback with the amount of spectators it was absoulutley rammed.

I have to disagree with you Timelord about the majority of support being for the bikes i noticed a lot of people left after the second sports and saloons race(incidently was an absoulute cracker).And one final thing nobody other than the marshalls clapped the drivers after the checkerd flag miserable so and so,s it is Christmas.

One for the diary next year if the car survives the 2008 calander.

Ian

[Alan]

I went for the first time and intend to go again. I thoroughly enjoyed the mix of bikes and cars - even the weather was ok.

[Sheila M]

What a great day's racing! I volunteered to lap chart for Ian up in the warmth of the commentary box, as a result of which, my brain hurts.

Lap charting properly is an art, which I am still learning, so I must apologise to Ian for totally losing the plot at one point during the second Saloon race. The leaders were on one lap, the back markers were two laps down and everyone else was somewhere in the middle. I was using three colums of my lap chart simultaneously and I knew from Ian's dancing around in the commentary box that things were hotting up out on the track. Sadly, I was concentrating on writing the right numbers in the correct order and missed most of the action.

Still, we got the first six in the right order, which was good.

Can I suggest that next year everyone drives round in first gear in order to make life easier for the lap charters?

Anyway, I had fun and there were some cracking races. Oh, and the highlight of the day? Meeting Adam Ashmore!

[Adam43]

Nice to meet you too Shiela, sorry the first time I had to get back to the car. We are fairly sure that the problem we had was water in the fuel tank. Although pump and filter are going to be changed anyway.

However I had a great time. Met lots of people, hello all! Got a couple of starts under my belt in a new car. Got covered in mud from one car and tapped by a Clio! Went out on slicks in a damp practice, couldn't get heat into them and got clapped by the marshalls a couple of times for sideways moments. Stopped by a small problem, but learnt lots about our new car. I was also mentioned in the programme, which was nice (cheers Ian).

I didn't see as much bike racing as I would have liked, but it was a well run packed meeting.

[Dave Brand]

Originally Posted by TIMELORD

so couldn't see what happened on the last lap. Peter Felix was leading, followed by Andy Thompson and Will Hodges (after a demon late-breaking move from Thompson into the hairpin after Hodges stole second from him briefly). Then, all of a sudden, Hodges was in front. What happened to Felix and Thompson at Gerards?

That all got sorted out during a three-abreast moment into the Esses.....looked good from Stebbe Straight!

whereas Felix and Thompson were thumping their past the slower cars - which was great to watch!

Thumping is probably an unfortunate choice of word - the racing was very clean.

Was it just careful driving, or did the Pedrazza have a problem in the second race?

It did seem to me that either it was down on power or they were holding it back - it certainly didn't have as big a speed advantage down the straight as I would have expected.

Best moment of the meeting for me was the grey Anglia fishtailing the whole length of the Stebbe straight in the middle of a bunch of cars without hitting anybody, finally catching it at about the fifth attempt!

[Tony_Simpson]

Yes it was a great meeting for car, bike and sidecar fans alike.

The car races were great, lots of close Caterham racing. The Pedrazza in the second race seemed to be taking it easy, but when he slipped to third near the end then woke up and drove past Andy and Peter.

The guy with the blue Midget did an amazing job in the second race, keeping all but the Pedrazza behind it for an entire lap then for the rest of the race mixing it with seemingly faster machines.

Pity so many people went home before the last set of bike races. although they were nearly run in the dark the still produced great action.

Memory of the day has to be the Titch Triumph side car 2 wheeling it down the devils elbow (and any other left hander!) then shutting the throttle to get the other wheel on the ground. The first Side car race was great with the winner only getting there on the last lap (of 6).

that was the first time i have been to Mallory for 3-4 years and went around the track seeing what improvements have been made for spectators. THey seem to be doing alot to improve the place. Great to see.

All in all a great day of action in all races, great racing good weather. Just what you need in the winter to blow the cobwebs out!!

[TIMELORD]

Originally Posted by Dave Brand

Thumping is probably an unfortunate choice of word - the racing was very clean.

Yes, probably an unfortunate choice of word! By 'thumping' I meant that they weren't wasting any time in passing the slower cars, whereas the Pedrazza seemed a little more circumspect. The racing was so impressive because it was also clean.

[racingbloke]

Hi ,
The Plum Pudding race was great fun, trying to avoid taking other competitors out, whilst driving a much faster car than the rest of the field concentrated the mind. The Pedrazza developed a Throttle problem in the first race which got much worse in the second race for Will and was intermittent making it quite difficult to drive, moving from half power most of the time to full power on the last lap, allowing the late pass on the Clio. Great never to be repeated fun. Our thanks to all the marshalls and BARC organisation especially Noreen and great spectat.or numbers

[Adam43]

Unless I missed it (don't think so, but only flicked this morn), Autosport and Motoring News (sic) missed the Plum Pudding. I suppose that the only people interested are those there, or is it a case of another seasonal edition printed several weeks before the publication date?

[graeme]

Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Unless I missed it (don't think so, but only flicked this morn), Autosport and Motoring News (sic) missed the Plum Pudding. I suppose that the only people interested are those there, or is it a case of another seasonal edition printed several weeks before the publication date?

Hmmm - should have been reports in yesterday/today's issues. I guess it's so long since the races that it's effectively old news...? One of the editors at Autosport said that Ian S was doing a report. Autosport, in particular, shot themselves in the foot with a Christmas double issue that came out two weeks before Christmas, then another issue on Boxing Day (I doubt they were at work on Christmas Eve on it, so lots of old news and reviews in it I guess). Thanks for saving me from buying them!