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Thanks for knocking me back, Lol!
The point is that as GT3 gets ever more expensive there must surely be place for GT4 from more manufacturers. |
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Just a gut-feeling, but somehow I think the pendulum is slowly swinging away from the GTs and towards the tourers again... Not saying GT-racing will vanish or anything, but touring cars have really been at their nadir (on the continent) and them coming back to a more prominent position will take a chunk out of the GT-market. |
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The difference between Saloons/ Tourers and GTs has been fairly arbitrary for some time. Bentley GT? Most of the cars in the Italian Superstars (Super Touring, or whatever it's called this week) could be described as GTs. Maybe the cars in that series should be homologated in to GT4. Also consider the World Rally GT cars, and if they were GT4 type cars, too, then you might get even more manufacturer interest across the board and GT4 would really take off.
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Maybe they could both co-exist in economically better times...
...personally I think that whilst having such a strong GT4 grid is good, the lack of the headlining GT3s is worrying. Hopefully, as stated before, hopefully we get quality, not quantity, and the new Aston and McLaren young driver schemes can help the British GT scene in years to come. And 22Racing will return with an Aston Martin, along with an FF Corse Ferrari with Adam Carroll returning! Still think he's a huge coup for BGT!! |
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I think we simply can't assume that GTs will always be king of the hill in production based racing. When I look back at the 90s - and with an admittedly somewhat German-centric perspective - GTs on a national level were very unimportant. There was one series with any kind of TV-coverage, the old ADAC GT Cup, an even they bolstered their grids with stuff like Escort Cosworths and Opel Calibras. On the other hand, we had a touring car pyramid that was 4 or 5 layers deep with the top three of those (DTM, STW and DTC) having live TV-broadcasts of their races, each of them headlining their own standalone weekends and drawing decent-ish crowds. The situation is very much reversed today, but with GT3 slowly pricing itself out of existence for many markets and TCR gobbling those right up (Spain and BeNeLux come to mind), I think we'll move away from the GT-centric world we see right now. Sure, there are always some old geezers with more money than brains that will want to drive around in souped up Porsches and Ferraris, but the thing that makes national GT3 so interesting right now is having all those professional or semi-professional drivers and teams and those really don't care all that much about what kind of cars they are running as long as they can make a living doing it. |
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Agreed - as a trackside spectator I want to see the GT3 cars - GT4 type machinery is closer to club level machinery and doesn't have the 'wow' factor, I want to see the big, snorty stuff thanks
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Maserati actually developed a Gran Turismo based GT4 racer (which evolved into the MC Stradale road car) and produced a batch of them, which where raced with some success a few years ago. In addition to the factory team, also Brazilian, Dutch, Italian and Swiss teams raced with those GT4s. None in Britain, however, as far as I know. I suppose there just is a strong preference for Ginetta, Lotus and AMs in Britain....
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They were raced as late as 2013 in the Brazil GT series. But, you are right that racing efforts with the Maserati GT4 were at best sporadic.
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GT4 Team Parker - Aston - Terry Langley & Mike Hart Twisted Team Parker - Ginetta - Adrian Barwick & Brad Ellis Fox Motorsport - Ginetta - Paul McNeilly & Jamie Stanley 2 x UltraTek - Lotus Evora - James Nash, Jamie Wall, Richard Taffinder, Tim Eakin Optimum Motorsport - Ginetta - Graham Johnson & Mike Robinson Tolman Motorsport - Ginetta - David Pattison & Luke Davenport ISSY Racing - Lotus Evora - Ossy Yusuf & Gavan Kershaw Stratton Motorsport - Aston - Chloe & Jade Edwards GPRM - Toyota GT86 - Stefan Hodgetts & TBA GT3 Beechdean - Aston GT3 - Jonny Adam & Andrew Howard TF Sport - Aston GT3 - Derek Johnston & Matt Bell Ecurie Ecosse - BMW - Marco Attard & Alexander Sims Barwell DT - BMW - Jon Minshaw & Phil Keen Team LNT - Ginetta GT3 - Rick Parfitt Jnr & Tom Oliphant Team LNT - Ginetta GT3 - Steve Tandy & Mike Simpson 22GT Racing - Aston GT3 - Jon Barnes & Mark Farmer FF Corse - Ferrari 458 - Gary Eastwood & Adam Carroll Triple Eight - BMW - Lee Mowle & Joe Osborne Von Ryan - Mclaren - TBC |
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Some more good news it appears that 5 of the 7 rounds are going to get live TV coverage on Motors TV:-
http://www.britishgt.com/newsitem.php?key=2288 That is very good news for the championship. |
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Any news on more confirmed entries? I'm sure I read somewhere that there was a capacity field for this year but that list above leaves a few gaps - the only other entry I've heard about is a second TF Sport Aston.
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GT4 Team Parker - Aston - Terry Langley & Mike Hart Twisted Team Parker - Ginetta - Adrian Barwick & Brad Ellis Fox Motorsport - Ginetta - Paul McNeilly & Jamie Stanley 2 x UltraTek - Lotus Evora - James Nash, Jamie Wall, Richard Taffinder, Tim Eakin Optimum Motorsport - Ginetta - Graham Johnson & Mike Robinson Tolman Motorsport - Ginetta - David Pattison & Luke Davenport ISSY Racing - Lotus Evora - Ossy Yusuf & Gavan Kershaw Stratton Motorsport - Aston - Chloe & Jade Edwards GPRM - Toyota GT86 - Stefan Hodgetts & TBA GT3 Beechdean - Aston GT3 - Jonny Adam & Andrew Howard TF Sport - Aston GT3 - Derek Johnston & Matt Bell TF Sport -Aston GT3 - Jody Fannin & Andrew Jarman Ecurie Ecosse - BMW - Marco Attard & Alexander Sims Barwell DT - BMW - Jon Minshaw & Phil Keen Team LNT - Ginetta GT3 - Rick Parfitt Jnr & Tom Oliphant Team LNT - Ginetta GT3 - Steve Tandy & Mike Simpson 22GT Racing - Aston GT3 - Jon Barnes & Mark Farmer FF Corse - Ferrari 458 - Gary Eastwood & Adam Carroll Triple Eight - BMW - Lee Mowle & Joe Osborne Von Ryan - Mclaren - Salih Yoluc & TBC (Euan Hankey) |
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Academy are confirmed for GT4 with 2 Aston Martins and Von Ryan have confirmed 2 McLarens - so the grid is filling up now. Is there any news from Motorbase?
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Team Parker - Aston - Terry Langley & Mike Hart Twisted Team Parker - Ginetta - Adrian Barwick & Brad Ellis Fox Motorsport - Ginetta - Paul McNeilly & Jamie Stanley 2 x UltraTek - Lotus Evora - James Nash, Jamie Wall, Richard Taffinder, Tim Eakin Optimum Motorsport - Ginetta - Graham Johnson & Mike Robinson Tolman Motorsport - Ginetta - David Pattison & Luke Davenport ISSY Racing - Lotus Evora - Ossy Yusuf & Gavan Kershaw Stratton Motorsport - Aston - Chloe & Jade Edwards GPRM - Toyota GT86 - Stefan Hodgetts & TBA Academy MS - Aston - Will Moore & Dennis Strandberg Academy MS - Aston - Chris Webster & James Harrison Beechdean - Aston - Jamie Chadwick & Ross Gunn GT3 Beechdean - Aston GT3 - Jonny Adam & Andrew Howard TF Sport - Aston GT3 - Derek Johnston & Matt Bell TF Sport -Aston GT3 - Jody Fannin & Andrew Jarman Ecurie Ecosse - BMW - Marco Attard & Alexander Sims Barwell DT - BMW - Jon Minshaw & Phil Keen Team LNT - Ginetta GT3 - Rick Parfitt Jnr & Tom Oliphant Team LNT - Ginetta GT3 - Steve Tandy & Mike Simpson 22GT Racing - Aston GT3 - Jon Barnes & Mark Farmer FF Corse - Ferrari 458 - Gary Eastwood & Adam Carroll Triple Eight - BMW - Lee Mowle & Joe Osborne Von Ryan - Mclaren - Salih Yoluc & Euan Hankey Von Ryan - Mclaren - Ross Wylie & Andrew Watson |
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I like the Wylie/Watson line-up at Von Ryan! Again I feel we need more GT3 cars. 12 is hardly any compared to recently. 12 is hardly any full stop. Whilst it's nice to see GT4 in rude health, where are the proper cars???!!!
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Seems to be a marked lack of Ferrari's
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I would like to see a bigger cross over between the GT4 Supercup on the BTCC package and the G55's in British GT. Would be go to see the GT4 cars go to the package (series looks set for ten car grids at the moment) and then those from the package cross back over to add EVEN MORE to GT4 in British GT.
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I hope we wil see the newly announced Porsche Cayman GT4 in the series in due course. Porsche have said that there will be a race version.
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I am also really looking forward to see the SIN R1 GT4... that and the KTM could be the cars that really transforms GT4 into something a bit more flashy and exciting. Edit: There it is! Last edited by Speed-King; 5 Mar 2015 at 21:23. |
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