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30 Aug 2015, 23:20 (Ref:3570099) | #26 | ||
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Comgrats to Dixon on his 4th Championship. Before the race all eyes were pretty much focused on Montoya and Rahal.
Congrats to Ganassi on his 100th win. |
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30 Aug 2015, 23:24 (Ref:3570100) | #27 | ||
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Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.
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30 Aug 2015, 23:26 (Ref:3570101) | #28 | ||
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Penske loses the championship in the last race for the 6th time in 7 years.
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30 Aug 2015, 23:27 (Ref:3570102) | #29 | ||
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I don't have a preference between JPM and Dixie, and won't deny that it was a hell of a show at the end considering the lack of actual overtakes, but it's almost meaningless with this random implementation of double points.
Sorry, gotta keep beating that dead horse. |
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30 Aug 2015, 23:27 (Ref:3570103) | #30 | ||
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That was an intense race if not in track action but in drama. Those last few cautions giving Montoya places was making it very tense!
Certainly off that race Dixon deserved the title for keeping out of trouble, getting good fuel and making no mistakes. Penske certainly don't seem to be well oiled slick machine they are made out to be when it really calls for it at times. |
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30 Aug 2015, 23:28 (Ref:3570104) | #31 | ||
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Ryan Briscoe denies Penske the title.
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30 Aug 2015, 23:29 (Ref:3570105) | #32 | |
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As one of the biggest JPM fans out there.
A part of me died a few minutes ago. I wonder if Will is going to be sacked for that? |
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That may have made a huge difference. Why would he? |
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30 Aug 2015, 23:42 (Ref:3570109) | #34 | ||
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So... WTF Bourdais?
WTF Pagenaud parking it in the pits? I'd WTF the contact between Power and Montoya but it didn't look that ridiculous to me. Love how Montoya blames double points, and Power blames the pit stop rules, for the championship loss. I'm with the "double points is BS" crowd here - I like Dixon a lot but no way he should have been able to grab the championship under these circumstances. I do tend to agree with Montoya that one bad (last) race, with double points, takes away the championship. But to his credit, the first thing he said post race was "I threw it away". |
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30 Aug 2015, 23:49 (Ref:3570111) | #35 | ||
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What ****es me off the most is that Montoya had a terrible day overall but salvaged a 6th place and still lost the championship. What more do you want from the guy?
EDIT: I find it funny how **** is censored but bullshit isn't. Last edited by bjohnsonsmith; 31 Aug 2015 at 01:06. Reason: Sorry, I clicked Edit by mistake. bjohnsonsmith |
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31 Aug 2015, 00:54 (Ref:3570124) | #36 | ||
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The race actually reminded me a little of some the Laguna Seca finales of the mid 90s.
I do think double points is stupid and unnecessary. Every year shouldn't need to be a "decider", individual events should stand on their own two feet as worthy events to win in their own right. Anyway, Montoya got the 500, which is what the year is about really. And Dixon did do a good job. Ganassi got the benefit of another count back but this time Montoya was at the losing end of it. Of course, that Fontana race way back then was also marred by a race tragedy, that of Greg Moore. |
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31 Aug 2015, 01:04 (Ref:3570126) | #37 | ||
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31 Aug 2015, 01:27 (Ref:3570129) | #38 | ||
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Surprise result,I thought Dixons slim chances of winning the title would be same as Trump being your next President.
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However, as far as the IndyCar championship was concerned it would seem the focus was mainly on Montoya and Rahal and Dixon was overlooked. |
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31 Aug 2015, 01:38 (Ref:3570132) | #40 | ||
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1 Scott Dixon, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 2h09m14.2620s 2 Ryan Hunter-Reay, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 6.1115s 3 Charlie Kimball, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 7.1279s 4 Tony Kanaan, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 8.9030s 5 Ryan Briscoe, Schmidt Peterson Motorsports. Dallara/Honda. 10.0749s 6 Juan Pablo Montoya, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 11.2548s 7 Will Power, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 12.4877s 8 Takuma Sato, AJ Foyt Enterprises. Dallara/Honda. 16.0888s 9 Rodolfo Gonzalez, Dale Coyne Racing. Dallara/Honda. 20.8011s 10 Mikhail Aleshin, Schmidt Peterson Motorsports. Dallara/Honda. 22.5749s 11 Marco Andretti, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 23.6709s 12 Oriol Servia, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 24.4514s 13 Sebastian Saavedra, Chip Ganassi Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 24.7775s 14 Gabby Chaves, Bryan Herta Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 25.5357s 15 Helio Castroneves, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 26.0659s 16 Simon Pagenaud, Team Penske. Dallara/Chevrolet. 27.3185s 17 Stefano Coletti, KV Racing Technology. Dallara/Chevrolet. 35.1645s 18 Graham Rahal, Rahal, Letterman Lanigan. Dallara/Honda. 36.4838s 19 Jack Hawksworth, AJ Foyt Enterprises. Dallara/Honda. 38.9404s 20 Sebastien Bourdais, KVSH Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 42.5956s 21 Josef Newgarden, CFH Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 1 Lap 22 Carlos Munoz, Andretti Autosport. Dallara/Honda. 1 Lap 23 Tristan Vautier, Dale Coyne Racing. Dallara/Honda. 3 Laps 24 Luca Filippi, CFH Racing. Dallara/Chevrolet. 5 Laps 25 James Jakes, Schmidt Peterson Motorsports. Dallara/Honda. Contact An extremely good result overall for Ganassi. A good showing by Sato in 8th; he managed not to crash and a worthy 10th place for Mikhail Aleshin. |
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31 Aug 2015, 01:43 (Ref:3570135) | #41 | ||
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31 Aug 2015, 01:47 (Ref:3570136) | #42 | ||
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31 Aug 2015, 02:25 (Ref:3570141) | #43 | ||
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It was an exciting end to the race, and the season, coming down to the last lap. I didn't care for the results though. Or the double points. And I agree with Power about the cautions. Nearly every Indycar race of the season ends up with the winner being the one who lucked out and happened to come in the pits right before a caution, or who stayed out and tooled around saving gas hoping a caution wouldn't come out. Usually a driver dominates the beginning of a race, and then ends up mid pack because a caution comes out at the wrong time, and then they're done for the race, unless they luck out again later in the race regarding pitting vs. caution coming out.
I don't know what the solution to this would be though. Will said if they always kept the pits open it would help and I guess that makes sense. Buttocks. |
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31 Aug 2015, 06:35 (Ref:3570167) | #44 | ||
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Dixon won the most races this year and the double points rule has been known all year, i'm not a Dixon fanatic but he's definitely a worthy champ for the year i think.
Sure Montoya led the points race all year, but he hasn't won since the 500. |
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31 Aug 2015, 09:13 (Ref:3570194) | #46 | ||
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Great race and a worthy finale to an excellent season.
If not for the double points would the final few laps be as riveting? OK for Montoya and Power to complain but if they didn't run into each other things may have worked out differently. Scott Dixon is the best and most complete racer in Indycar and a worthy Champion (again). However I don't think double points are a good idea in any Round of any Championship! |
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31 Aug 2015, 09:20 (Ref:3570198) | #47 | ||
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At the end of the championship the right people are at the front so the cautions don't affect the results that much. It's not like Dracone won the title as he got some lucky yellows. Dixon kept out of trouble mostly all year. Can only remember the Kimball nerf at Detroit. He won 3 races so more than deserving.
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31 Aug 2015, 12:36 (Ref:3570235) | #50 | |
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I think that the series needs to rethink the safety car rules on road and street courses. The Filippi thing shouldn't have been a safety car anyway, but even if it was, was it really necessary to close the pits? The results are random too often. Ovals need as many cautions, if not more.
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