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3 May 2018, 13:34 (Ref:3819104) | #26 | |
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Tank capacity + max fuel energy per lap defines exact numbers of "green" laps per stint, so yes a hard cap. The only way to get more laps would be to use less fuel than allowed, but of course that degrades performance.
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3 May 2018, 13:35 (Ref:3819105) | #27 | ||
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That story, which might be made up nonsense, says Ginetta are funding the #5 so the #6 might be withdrawn if funding is missing.
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3 May 2018, 14:31 (Ref:3819112) | #29 | |
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Then i don't understand the article by sportscar365 as they cann still run lean to extend their stint
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3 May 2018, 14:56 (Ref:3819116) | #30 | |
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Toyota unload a bit of sand
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3 May 2018, 15:12 (Ref:3819117) | #31 | ||
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So far I've seen zero confirmation that a LMP1 car is not allowed to run more than 17 laps in a stint. |
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3 May 2018, 15:12 (Ref:3819118) | #32 | |
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Porsche also remove some sand. 2:14.647. That's really shifting for a GT car.
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SPA 2018 - LE MANS 2018 During the two first race events, the performances will be analysed and checked in comparison with the homologated data sheet during each session. If the analysis will not be possible due to lack of confidence of the onboard data or lack of proper dry running conditions, FIA/ACO will keep the possibility to take some precaution on the fuel allocation of LMP1NH for the race. If some adjustments are necessary, before Le Mans 2018, it could be done for any engine type (NA or TC) of LMP1NH by: Addition of a maximum of +20kg ballast associated with minimum weight increase of +20kg; Reduction of the maximum fuel flow (with associated fuel/lap and fuel/stint) without changing engine hardware homologation; Any other adjustments required if necessary. In terms of stint length, in any case, the maximum number of ‘green’ laps (without safety car, slow zone(s) and not depending on track conditions) should not exceed 11 laps for LMP1H and 10 laps for LMP1NH in Le Mans 2018 race and 19 laps for LMP1H and 17 laps for LMP1NH in Spa 2018 race. |
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3 May 2018, 15:42 (Ref:3819123) | #34 | ||
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Presumably that is what is being referred to.
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3 May 2018, 15:51 (Ref:3819125) | #35 | |
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You can still refer to it as EOT as regardless of what's being done and how, it is tweaking between different technologies, not individual cars like in DPi or wherever. Thet're not gonna penalise Rebellion for being faster than ByKolles or grant SMP gifts for being slower than Dragonspeed. They are giving clea advantage to Toyota of course - seemingly on racr by race basis - but they can excuse it with running to different tech set
Of course what they are doing here is done in... Unsatisfactory way to say the least... But it could be worse. And to be frank, IF there is going to be favoritism to either side it's better to be on factory spectrum because they genuinely would be miles ahead of all the nonhybrids anyway if everyone run the same weight and fuel specs, not only in technology but resources too Anyway going back to proceedings, Ginetta's looking rather awful Last edited by Deleted; 3 May 2018 at 15:56. |
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3 May 2018, 15:59 (Ref:3819130) | #38 | ||
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But this is not really Manor's fault nor their questionable sponsor situations but rather Ginetta not putting pressure and resources. They screwed their otherwise promisingly starting LMP3 program the same way, effectively |
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3 May 2018, 16:08 (Ref:3819133) | #40 | |
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I still don't believe it's regulative mandation. I think if you want to use less fuel per lap than the allowed maximum to stretch the stint you can do so. There was always a maximum Energy per lap and fuel tank size. Dragonspeed are just not happy that the values got changed
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3 May 2018, 16:10 (Ref:3819134) | #41 | |
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I don't see what a guideline would be stated for. If they say hybrid has an efficiency advantage of a lap at LM, that seems pretty set in stone. I think the fact that this information is being talked about now is a little funny. Maybe because the exact wording is being released? Maybe because non-hybrids are taken aback a little at the fact they have to adhere to being 'short-stinted'? Maybe they can underfuel their car now and save some time during pit stops or run lighter?
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3 May 2018, 16:12 (Ref:3819136) | #42 | |
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Umm, Ford? 2:13.733. Wow. That's an all-time fastest GT lap. Faster than the Larbre Saleen in 2008 which did 2:13.923.
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3 May 2018, 16:15 (Ref:3819137) | #43 | ||
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Maximum fuel tank fill was always part of the EoT, from the very start. The only thing that's changed is that the non-hybrid cars get a cut in maximum fuel fill. This was already announced and discussed two weeks ago, when Dagys already took a shot at the ACO by calling it a 'slowdown' of the privateer cars when there hadn't even been a race yet. This whole article is a complete disgrace and yet another example of the complete lack of any journalistic integrity of mr Dagys. It almost makes me angry that people seem to take his opinion disguised as a clickbaity 'news' article as fact already. It does immense damage to the WEC as a championship. |
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But all in all, I don't think any of this is gonna matter at LM because beyond qualifying and first segments of the race, that event most likely won't have anything do with performance this year, but survival |
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3 May 2018, 16:17 (Ref:3819139) | #45 | |
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I think it is still proper EoT. We have very capable nonhybrids it seems in terms of speed. The hybrid should be more fuel efficient by definition, right? And it is.
How much further could Toyota go if they had the same fuel tank size as privateers? So 1 lap more at LM is not so much. They (both Toyota and ACO) should be able to showcase the hybrid technology IMHO. |
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3 May 2018, 16:22 (Ref:3819143) | #47 | |
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"In terms of stint length, in any case, the maximum number of ‘green’ laps (without safety car, slow zone(s) and not
depending on track conditions) should not exceed 11 laps for LMP1H and 10 laps for LMP1NH in Le Mans 2018 race and 19 laps for LMP1H and 17 laps for LMP1NH in Spa 2018 race." The wording is important. Should means that the ACO's calculations show that the no-hybrids will have sufficient fuel to do 17 laps. Not a hard and fast regulation. Must would mean that they are not allowed to do any more than 17 no matter how much fuel they put in the car. |
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It's hardly EoT if you're actually building it so they aren't equivalent. I've always defended the EoT against BoP, but it's no longer equivalency.
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