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Hamilton and Piastri make contact. Piastri pits with a damaged front wing.
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Congrats to Verstappen on 10 consecutive wins.
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Nice win for Max. Exciting fight between Checo, Carlos and Charles. Unfortunate that Lewis's poor pass ruined Oscar's race and effectively got away with it. Felt bad for Yuki as he seems to be showing some speed. Lawson almost in the points.
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Liam Lawson finishing 11th puts him to the highest a number 2 driver in AT has scored this year. Putting De Vries and Riccardo down to 21st and 22nd in a championship that has 20 cars.
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Landon Norris and George Russell are getting insufferable on the radio. The assumption that the car you're passing HAS to get out of your way just makes it impossible to watch you and want success. Although guess you could say that was the only interesting thing of the race other than Max driving around Sainz early
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To be fair, the same comment can be made about Perez "He isn't giving me any space"......that's his job - not just to roll over because you're in a Red Bull....
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Most of the time a 5 second penalty is no penalty at all.It is also no discouragement to dangerous driving.
Hamilton today being case in point. Also McLaren shafting Piastri on the pit stops was just bad.Unlike Silverstone where they risked Norris being undercut that was not going to happen today because Hamilton was on hardship.After the stops Norris had no more relative pace than Piastri.So twice they have given Norris rather than the driver with track position pit stop preference.Just poor. |
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The drivers are told to do it, by their teams. Supposedly to make sure race control don't 'miss' it.
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Good to see Ferrari back up there, but still no one can beat Verstappen. Really the rest need to get their fingers out, there’s plenty who can challenge and beat him if they get the chance
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I was thinking similar.
I also can think of no one on the grid that shows remotely the talent Max has shown. Im not sure that given the RB is designed or at least developed around Max's needs, even the best of other drivers in an RB would still be shadowed. I say that with my own personal preferences being far from focussed on Max as a supporter. However, like him or not, I believe him to be a notch up from the likes of Alonso, a notch and a bit up on Lewis and certainly a couple of notches up on Leclerc, Norris et al.... Before I get shot down in flames, i add the words "My Opinion". Sharing it is your option |
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+1 with Aye. +1 with EB. I dont think that doing anything with one, several fingers or even more could help anyone not driving a RB to fill the gap. IMO.
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Has Max been crowned champion yet? I can't think there are many more rounds left, 3?
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What I meant earlier was that we need more cars to be able to challenge Red Bull and put them under pressure. Until now they haven’t really been in any vulnerable position, so it will be interesting to see if someone can match and/or them over a race distance
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Max has it too easy atm. The car he has seems to be too perfect. Even the best ones have had their flaws. As well as that he’s never really been put to the test against a top driver in the same car. That’s one of the reasons why I consider Prost the best ever, he wasn’t afraid of going against other top talent in the same car. And more often than not would beat them
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