Hines to Vauxhall in 04? - Page 2

Craner Curves · 17 Dec 2003, 21:07 (Ref:814497)

Collard can't come up with funds. That's why he isn't there.

**Craig** · 17 Dec 2003, 21:17 (Ref:814506)

What's stopping Triple Eight returning to running four cars though? If Paul can't put a deal together with them then I'd guess at him knocking on Team Dynamics' door. Or how about a Techspeed MG?

rdjones · 17 Dec 2003, 22:16 (Ref:814577)

If I where MG, Honda, Proton et al I would snap Owy up now.

BootsOntheSide · 17 Dec 2003, 22:56 (Ref:814623)

Triple Eight never did fund four cars. In 2001-2002 they funded 2 and Egg funded two. They already made a step up to funding 3 ths year, adn obviously felt that it was unsustainable, especially as they weren't finishing 1-2-3 too often.

racingdad · 18 Dec 2003, 09:09 (Ref:814915)

Quote:

Originally posted by BootsOntheSide
Triple Eight never did fund four cars. In 2001-2002 they funded 2 and Egg funded two. They already made a step up to funding 3 ths year, adn obviously felt that it was unsustainable, especially as they weren't finishing 1-2-3 too often.

who says they funded three cars? I suspect that the thrid car was funded by spice money

Trigger · 18 Dec 2003, 10:44 (Ref:814966)

i think paul will go honda i think vauxhall wants a young driver it would be good to see how luke go s next year

big ears · 18 Dec 2003, 14:01 (Ref:815154)

Wont has hines done to desevre a drive with a top team. He only won the championship last season becasue they were on 6 people in it, and the only car championship he won was the Southern formula fords. Rob Collard is the peolpe champion, (like matt neil was when he was an indenpandent). Rob worked very hard last year to get the money to drive, he desevered the seat. Hines Dont

racingdad · 18 Dec 2003, 14:06 (Ref:815158)

Hines paid for it, Collard didn't

big ears · 18 Dec 2003, 14:12 (Ref:815163)

I woder where he got the money from "Zip". It does help if you have a rich family.

racingdad · 18 Dec 2003, 14:19 (Ref:815171)

Collard ain't quite as poor as some may imagine - and Hines not quite as rich as many believe! Its all about being able to put a deal together and having the confidence that you can underwrite it - I know of at least one independent running next year who had to put down a very, very large deposit - enough to fund a full season in one of the lesser formulae.

big ears · 18 Dec 2003, 14:27 (Ref:815183)

I no the year he won the southern ff, Martin Hines won't pay for him to drive in the national championship, because he thought the costs are too hight( which they are)but now the zip ff are up and running, he has enough the get luke a drive. Wont is the current charge for a good drive in a independant team. Over £150,000

Trigger · 18 Dec 2003, 14:29 (Ref:815186)

i dont think hines has got that much money i know him quite well. good luck to him hes got the best car on the grid and got the deal he did well this year for his first year in a tin top thats pretty good going

Trigger · 18 Dec 2003, 14:34 (Ref:815191)

i know that he broke a lot ov the records in production class i thing vaxhall want a young driver how olds collard

big ears · 18 Dec 2003, 14:34 (Ref:815192)

Lukes Aims of winning the championship is a bit high. When you got past winners in the field

Trigger · 18 Dec 2003, 14:36 (Ref:815196)

true but it would be good two see how he gets on

racingdad · 18 Dec 2003, 14:38 (Ref:815199)

Quote:

Originally posted by big ears
Wont is the current charge for a good drive in a independant team. Over £150,000

If you want GA or Barwell to run you, you probably need about twice that - "works" VX - probaly nearer £400,000.

JohnMiller · 18 Dec 2003, 15:51 (Ref:815312)

Big Ers - it taches abut five minits to decyffer yr pstings...

Srt it uot.

racingdad · 18 Dec 2003, 15:56 (Ref:815318)

methinks bigears is trying to fool us

peter briggs · 18 Dec 2003, 16:29 (Ref:815346)

The costs to run in the BTCC depends on many items.If you have to design cars,how many days testing, if you employ fulltime staff for the whole year,how you maintain the cars. Therefore budgets for 2 cars could be as high as £2000000 for a works team . Independents £800000 for a top team down to £400000.

racingdad · 18 Dec 2003, 16:34 (Ref:815349)

Thank you Mr. Briggs - I was suggesting how much a driver would need to bring with him so I think your figures (and you should know) pretty much back up my guestimate in that respect.

Craner Curves · 18 Dec 2003, 16:49 (Ref:815367)

Quote:

Originally posted by racingdad
Collard ain't quite as poor as some may imagine

Exactly, he managed to complete a full season with only smalltime sponsors on his car like a Vauxhall garage and a double glazing company. Hardly multinational conglomerates.

racingdad · 18 Dec 2003, 16:54 (Ref:815371)

The family firm is big in waste disposal - and you all know that good old Northern saying:

"Where there's muck there's brass"

mystery racer · 18 Dec 2003, 16:55 (Ref:815375)

I wish I was as "poor" as Mr. Collard...

hehe!

andy_b · 18 Dec 2003, 17:12 (Ref:815392)

Collard's firm also does lots of demolition and haulage in the Farnbourgh/Farnham area (currently knocking down some parts of Farnham Hospital), so techincally hes sponsored by the NHS

**touringlegend** · 18 Dec 2003, 22:02 (Ref:815563)

I think a lot will be expected of Luke next year going by how good he was in his first year of tin tops this season past.

Could be a dissapointment if he doesn't astound people.

And so what if his daddy's rich?

I know if mine were I wouldn't stop paying for a drive incase people think bad of me...

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