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Old 31 Aug 2004, 21:35 (Ref:1083183)   #26
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Junior could only learn from Seton, so if i was him i'd keep my mouth shut and eyes and ears wide open. If he doesn't then his career may be over. I think he is a good driver but needs to learn a few things yet to become a No. 1.
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Old 31 Aug 2004, 21:38 (Ref:1083186)   #27
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I agree he just needsb guidence as he can drive and doesnt bend the car to often
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Old 31 Aug 2004, 23:21 (Ref:1083253)   #28
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I saw DJ on Ch10 news, just caught the end of it, he said something about a possible switch to Holden......can anyone shed any light on this issue?
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Old 31 Aug 2004, 23:55 (Ref:1083265)   #29
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He's playing mind games - apparently he has an empathy for some 47 staff and so he's looking for the best fit for his conglomerate.

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Old 1 Sep 2004, 01:45 (Ref:1083301)   #30
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I hear that some FPR staff are following Glenn to DJR. Talk of a person formerly associated with Glenn may also move to the team, but i can't see it happening.
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Old 1 Sep 2004, 02:15 (Ref:1083313)   #31
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I see

DJR
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Old 1 Sep 2004, 02:27 (Ref:1083324)   #32
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I hear that some FPR staff are following Glenn to DJR. Talk of a person formerly associated with Glenn may also move to the team, but i can't see it happening.
How many of Glenn's old GSR staff members are still at FPR??

You make a good point!! How many FPR staff members will follow both Lowndes to 888 & Seto to DJR???
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Old 1 Sep 2004, 02:35 (Ref:1083326)   #33
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This has some pretty big waves coming from this.

*FPR need a "name" driver, so the Tanders and Radisich's have some leverage in contract negotiations.Maybe a chance for Owen Kelly to get back into the Ford "Factory" team?

*This move finalises a few sponsor splits that could have been easily reversed in my eyes, with Mobil and Bridgestone.

*JNR is now not a clear #1 for the first time since he got the full time drive. Will he handle it?

*Personally, any rifts between Ford, Shell and Dick will now be pretty easily sanded over, as they have the Ford icons of both the 80's and 90's in the one shed.

*As pointed out, the staff movements will have a pretty big impact. I still see plenty of HP in the DJR cars, and some setup improvements will only increase their worth.
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 01:18 (Ref:1084330)   #34
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I wonder if this means we'll see a camera back in Seto's car???? Steve has one in his car currently.. I wonder if it will stay in his car or move to Seto's car.. or even out of DJR altogether??? I'd love to see in car pictures from Seto's car agian!!!
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 10:16 (Ref:1084589)   #35
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One trained on his face as he calls it a "barsted" on corner exits ala Winton 2001(?) would be greatly entertaining.
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*As pointed out, the staff movements will have a pretty big impact. I still see plenty of HP in the DJR cars, and some setup improvements will only increase their worth.
DJR cars are usually quick in first practice (not sure if this is from the freshest set of used tyres or not) but the cars fall down the order in subsequent sessions...

Depending on what perspective you take on the team, there is a suggestion that the engineering talent isnt exactly thin on the ground at DJR, but more that there is a mismatch between the driving input and the car setup..

Mr Seton will change that, he doesnt have to learn how to drive a Supercar, unlike Radisich, Jr, Wilson, Luff etc etc and can give them a demon setup reasonably quickly.

Quite how Mr Seton will go knowing he has to drive for a full session because the engine will likely survive the whole time without detonating will be fun to watch

It could be the masterstroke of 2005....
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Old 2 Sep 2004, 11:30 (Ref:1084670)   #37
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I'd love to see the Glenn Seton of old in 2005. Imagine a wet 2005 Bathurst.
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Ah but in 1987 he had JB as codriver... reckon they could slake the demons and make that little dream come true again
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I'd love to see the Glenn Seton of old in 2005. Imagine a wet 2005 Bathurst.
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... Give Seto a dry track everytime!!!
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You mustn't have seen Glenn giving it to the Skyline over the top of the hill in the rain.
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You mustn't have seen Glenn giving it to the Skyline over the top of the hill in the rain.
I need!! Whilst it looked FANTASTIC!!! How quick was it??? I'd say not very quick!!!
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Old 3 Sep 2004, 02:34 (Ref:1085494)   #42
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It was quicker than anybody else managed on that lap...
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Old 3 Sep 2004, 04:52 (Ref:1085544)   #43
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Dick Johnson just said on Ch. 10 News that Steven will be in the team next year if he can "get over a few hurdles".
It would take MORE than a FEW hurdles for CUSTARD GUTS to lose all the weight he's put on lately, what happened did he sell the pushbike or get married or something ?

Old man DJ looks in great shape side by side.

Hey -I've got a marketing coup for FORD (since they never have any of there own) how about DJ's last Bathurst again !!! Brock v Johnson- hell even Bondy & Moff could turn up ! Geri Racing - How's that for excitement !
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It was quicker than anybody else managed on that lap...
That is completely impossible to know!!!! As at the time, the only way they know what your lap time was, is someone at the start/finish line with a stop watch... And that did not happen every lap for every car for 161 laps!!!!
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Well he was quicker than the next fastest.
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That is completely impossible to know!!!! As at the time, the only way they know what your lap time was, is someone at the start/finish line with a stop watch... And that did not happen every lap for every car for 161 laps!!!!
Not impossible to know, only impossible to prove (and likewise disprove) ...
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[B]DJR cars are usually quick in first practice (not sure if this is from the freshest set of used tyres or not) but the cars fall down the order in subsequent sessions...

Depending on what perspective you take on the team, there is a suggestion that the engineering talent isnt exactly thin on the ground at DJR, but more that there is a mismatch between the driving input and the car setup..

Mr Seton will change that, he doesnt have to learn how to drive a Supercar, unlike Radisich, Jr, Wilson, Luff etc etc and can give them a demon setup reasonably quickly.

He hasnt been able to do that for the last 7 or 8 years, what makes you think a change to DJR will bring miracles.
I cant see what all the hype over seton is about, he's no better than most of the blokes his age in the field.:confused:
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Am I the only one who has noticed the Super Cheap/Shell ads featuring Dick and the competition to win one of his road cars??????????

But I guess they had a Castrol competition a while ago where you could win a Castrol road Commodore??
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That is completely impossible to know!!!! As at the time, the only way they know what your lap time was, is someone at the start/finish line with a stop watch... And that did not happen every lap for every car for 161 laps!!!!
Not correct... RaceTime Computing recorded every lap of each of the cars in that field... in the days before the internet and high tech computers....

I wonder if the Commodore 64 can be cranked up to get a lap chart out of it?
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He hasnt been able to do that for the last 7 or 8 years, what makes you think a change to DJR will bring miracles.
I cant see what all the hype over seton is about, he's no better than most of the blokes his age in the field.:confused:
FTR was an underfunded extension of the old GSR... Ford Credit Racing was the same kinda thing... FPR remain a joke... (even Seto called the engines a disaster on Panelbeaters!)....

Seto can drive... he will do well... lets just wait and see
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