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Old 3 Jul 2014, 20:24 (Ref:3430043)   #5151
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Why? Shouldnt everyone be able to voice their opinions? As long as he's not trying to force his opinion on others I dont see anything wrong with hoping news goes a certain way.
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Old 3 Jul 2014, 22:01 (Ref:3430065)   #5152
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Why? Shouldnt everyone be able to voice their opinions? As long as he's not trying to force his opinion on others I dont see anything wrong with hoping news goes a certain way.
Everybody is allowed to voice their opinion, but there is no need to wish bad news for others. It's ok to wish that the news doesn't hit someone, but you don't have to direct it to others.

It's ok to support someone, but respect that other people might support others, there is no gain in wishing ill for them.
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Old 3 Jul 2014, 22:09 (Ref:3430068)   #5153
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Nah you got it wrong m8. I wish good for the TUSC but DSC said there would be bad news and they have to fall on something. And that something I wish is the TUSC and not the WEC.
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Old 4 Jul 2014, 08:18 (Ref:3430197)   #5154
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No news, Mr. Goodwin said they are delaying the good news while waiting for the bad news (to be confirmed, I guess?).
No I didn't - Both bits of news are independent and are still happening

The bad is confirmed and likely to be announced late next week now - the good could and should be earlier but timing unconfirmed.
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Old 4 Jul 2014, 12:25 (Ref:3430277)   #5155
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Not really sportscar news but looks as the GT3 formula is gonna make impact in touring cars as well now..

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114793

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Hmm yes and if they really follow GT3 evolution closely, these non-regs BoP cars will be running in every single tc category with varying factory support in ~5 years time
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Old 4 Jul 2014, 12:45 (Ref:3430287)   #5156
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actually also wtcc has some kind of bop with the weight ballast handicap.
Anyway I guess that TC3 formula will be successfull just because of lower costs, a TC1 car price is more than 500.000€.
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Yeah I know WTCC has success ballast + some other balancing methods however the cars still have to conform to regulations, but if this follows GT3 closely it's gonna be another full-on unregulated piece of balancing show from every weekend to the next. Which probably proves sucessfull for that very reason + reduced price gap you mentioned + proposed F1 support bill opportunity
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Old 4 Jul 2014, 13:29 (Ref:3430299)   #5158
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forgive me for the dumb question, but how exactly does bop and all that stuff encourage manufacturers to get involved? and once they're involved, where's the incentive to develop the car?
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Old 4 Jul 2014, 13:58 (Ref:3430305)   #5159
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Because it's easy and effortless.

And they're not there to develop the car (even though the likes of Audi still keep pouring down the money to that department despite knowing it's gonna be bopped again), they're there to have car that looks like one of their street cars to the naked eye and gives manufacturer identity, even if the performances and what's under the hood are all lies.
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Old 4 Jul 2014, 14:25 (Ref:3430314)   #5160
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Audi do keep spending money, but they keep winning and selling a lot of cars.

You spend the money on making the car more reliable, more robust and easier to drive and it subsequently makes it more appealing to privateer teams and privateer drivers.
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Old 4 Jul 2014, 14:36 (Ref:3430316)   #5161
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Audi do keep spending money, but they keep winning and selling a lot of cars.

You spend the money on making the car more reliable, more robust and easier to drive and it subsequently makes it more appealing to privateer teams and privateer drivers.
That is excellent commentary. The better the group of cars does, run by different teams and drivers, the better the brand looks, the more sales potentially generated.
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That is excellent commentary. The better the group of cars does, run by different teams and drivers, the better the brand looks, the more sales potentially generated.
I don't know how much this is the case with Touring cars. But let's remember that Audi really do develop and gain technology for their production vehicles through the Le Mans program. Something which is really clear in the newest line of VAG cars.
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Ive yet to see a diesel hybrid be a success. But diesel is semi popular here in America. Usually its heavy duty pickups. Im sure its different in Europe though.
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Ive yet to see a diesel hybrid be a success. But diesel is semi popular here in America. Usually its heavy duty pickups. Im sure its different in Europe though.
Very different.
The new era VAG diesel engines uses the Le Mans knowledge to make them more efficient and especially light!
The RS5 Diesel concept is a Diesel-Hybrid:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-new...-diesel-driven
VW, will soon present a hybrid drivetrain for almost all their cars, starting with the Golf with the GTE - a car designed to do 66Km/L of petrol. Not a diesel, but still with technology learned about Turbocharging and Electric systems used.
The XL1 is a Diesel-Hybrid - from this, rumors goes of an Diesel-Hybrid Up! being able to do 91,2Km/L of Diesel.

Within a few years, we will really begin to see a leap in technology, much based on the knowledge from Audi's Le Mans program.
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Old 5 Jul 2014, 05:55 (Ref:3430463)   #5165
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Ive yet to see a diesel hybrid be a success. But diesel is semi popular here in America. Usually its heavy duty pickups. Im sure its different in Europe though.
Mind you, diesel-hybrid is something Hino has been promoting heavily. Specifically, the old-school battery Prius hybrid
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Skim-read your post CTD, so now I'm starting rumours of a GTE-spec Volkswagen Golf.
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Lolz.

The sad thing is that it could theoretically even happen in that class...
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Lolz.

The sad thing is that it could theoretically even happen in that class...
That's not sad!, that would be amazing!

Oh, wait, I'm not on work
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Skim-read your post CTD, so now I'm starting rumours of a GTE-spec Volkswagen Golf.

There's already a GTE spec Vollswagen Beetle
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Are you not thinking about the GSR?
But there is already a GTD Golf
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But there is already a GTD Golf
But the GTD Golf has onion rings (pronounced Audi) on the grille.
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But the GTD Golf has onion rings (pronounced Audi) on the grille.
Nope! - It's mean:


But I think I have destroyed this thread enough now with Volkswagen marketing, please, let's get back to the speculation regarding Sportscar/GT (and Le Mans) Rumours
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