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8 Mar 2017, 07:52 (Ref:3717202) | #5151 | |
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A proper due diligence process from Lexus would've weeded out PG pretty quickly. If you're having to change names and/or owners to avoid being sued/put in jail, then you're a dodgy guy. Lexus would do well to cut ties with him.
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8 Mar 2017, 10:13 (Ref:3717235) | #5152 | ||
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Is there a reason nobody's considered the possibility that nobody else was interested in running the car stateside? It's honestly the only reason I can think of for the program to have been handed to Gentilozzi. I don't think TOYOTA would fail to notice such issues(even if they didn't look themselves, I'm sure RHR's team of lawyers made sure they were aware of the situation).
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8 Mar 2017, 12:29 (Ref:3717250) | #5153 | |
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I feel like we have waited for this car for many years now, dating back to the alms, seeing pics of a ready-to-go car that was never run, now we finally get it and it could get pulled after one or two races. Was it a lexus that I'm thinking of from alms days? Maybe if it was, they were deperate enough to get it out there that they were willing to associate with gentilozzi.
Edit: found this from 2008. Can also find pics of the car from back then. Don't remember it ever running. This is crazy. 10 years later, they finally get on the grid and it's with a guy who could have them seized. Lol. http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=106191 Last edited by RWill2073; 8 Mar 2017 at 12:34. |
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8 Mar 2017, 13:57 (Ref:3717269) | #5154 | ||
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There was also the GT2S Lexus built to the ALMS' GT2S (sport sedan) rules in 2006 that never turned up, and with PTG pulling their BMWs out at the end of that season and Champion never running their RS4 (originally designed for if they wanted to continue in PWC), that lead to IMSA making GT2S be a "catch all" GT2/GTE subclass comprised of converted GT3 cars or one off builds made with limited or no factory support.
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8 Mar 2017, 15:11 (Ref:3717287) | #5155 | ||
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Manufacturers send out RFP's (Request For Pricing) to all interested parties (teams) and then analyze the responses and pick someone to pay to run the program. They don't always go with who's best. Many times it comes down to simply pricing and I'd suspect RSR came in far cheaper than anyone else to get the deal, but I have no insider knowledge about their situation.
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I don't know if this is legal here, but, for the heck of it...(mod, pull my post if you must....)
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“We’re trying to close the doors without embarrassing ourselves, the France family and embarrassing (the) Grand American Series,” he said in the deposition. “There is no money. There is no purse. There’s nothing.” |
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As far as Jaguar's racing budget allegedly going to line PG's pockets, I'd heard similar things about a shop that ran Volvo's OLD WC program. Not KPAX, a previous team. With that sort of talk and known quantity, once again you have to wonder why a company as big as Lexus would choose someone to run their team who would seem such an unlikely choice for success. In my limited range of experience with taking bids for projects, the lowest bidder is never the wisest choice. |
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9 Mar 2017, 16:31 (Ref:3717544) | #5159 | ||
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See my post above. Not usually the wisest, but, you have to be able to demonstrate the NEED for extra cash. Takes a special person to be able to swing it.
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10 Mar 2017, 15:33 (Ref:3717796) | #5160 | ||
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So IMSA's released an entry list for Sebring and 10 10ths still doesn't have a race thread:
https://sebringraceway.com/images/20...finalENTRY.pdf I'm losing faith in Iowans who live in BR. |
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Out getting a haircut?
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http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/tr...o-tire-issues/
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14 Mar 2017, 20:05 (Ref:3718638) | #5166 | ||
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Not to mention that Continental people reportedly said that they can build better tires, but NASCAR/IMSA stonewalls them.
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Very clearly, the tire situation at Daytona, which was a combination of IMSA restricting Conti's development spending, an out of depth rain tire, severe weather conditions, and teams running ill-advised tire pressures (and potentially inadvisable suspension settings, as well) needs to be fixed.
However, as the article points out, Alegra Motorsports took the race victory with a car identical to TRG's GT3 R. Is there any value in Buckler throwing IMSA and Conti under the bus like that? Even if you didn't have anyone to pay for your full season effort, why throw stones? Chris |
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But even that, it isn't like there's one person saying the tyres are junk. We know for a fact they are. So this is just more proof of that. I don't think it's fair to suggest TRG is throwing Conti under a bus when we know Conti tyres are crap a lot of teams had issues with them. Some teams not having issues doesn't mean the complaints are not valid. |
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14 Mar 2017, 22:30 (Ref:3718665) | #5171 | |
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There were multiple tire issues through the race, with multiple teams as well. So it's a legitimate concern and not just an isolated issue. The tires are bad and not enough teams say it imo.
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14 Mar 2017, 23:38 (Ref:3718682) | #5172 | ||
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Well, it's the same as with NASCAR and Goodyear. I'm pretty sure that Goodyear can make better tires if given free reign. But I doubt that NASCAR would want them to.
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15 Mar 2017, 00:05 (Ref:3718685) | #5173 | ||
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Lol TRG.
Buckler doesn't have the funding for Sebring and is using Conti as the out instead of saying that. Typical Kevin Buckler, blame anything else other than your team. |
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15 Mar 2017, 07:33 (Ref:3718719) | #5174 | |
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Let's be a bit careful we aren't calling the kettle black here. It's easy to point out that Buckler isn't known for being the most reputable man in the paddock, but that doesn't change the fact that what he said is correct - the tyres were terrible for everyone, including the leaders. So by saying "Buckler is deflecting" all we're doing is deflecting from the actual issue.
The tyres are so bad that teams are quoting that as the reason for leaving the series. |
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