Official: TTFRL GPL Season 4

[Dani Filth]

i didn't use the trainer to actually train different parts of the circuit .. i think i might have well over 100 laps done on it .. most of them with the keyboard ..
the thing is . not to get frustrated

[pirenzo]

You just need to know where to push, and where to 'coast'.
Generally speaking the faster the corner the more risks you want to take, and vice-versa.

[carsreunited]

Couldn't get the trainer to work anyway. Just puts me in the pitlane all the time. Will have to do it the hard way.

[Dani Filth]

it's a thing only at the begining . and you still need to heat your tires . so just Shift+R and stay on track

[carsreunited]

Sorry Dani. Being a bit stupid. What's a 'thing' only at the beginning?

[Dani Filth]

lol . it's my english . sorry for that . .. it's a factor . you have to do a full lap to actually start a flyer .. but after you start a session . dont enter the pits every time . just use Shift+R . and start from there

[pirenzo]

You need at least half a lap of Nurb to bring your tyres up to optimum temperature. You tend to drive cautiously at the ring anyway which makes that process take longer, but on cold tyres the car will be extremely skittish anyway.

Tyre temperature is an often forgotten, but extremely important aspect. Your tyres don't wear per se, but driving too agressively will overheat them, and not driving agressively enough won't get enough heat into them. Optimum seems to be 190-205 degrees. (they're always 72 degrees cold)

[Gil Abobeleira]

Originally Posted by pirenzo

Optimum seems to be 190-205 degrees. (they're always 72 degrees cold)

You and Farhrenheit

Why can't you just get rid of it? And, in the meantime, shed inches, galoons, pounds, the pound, miles, driving in the wrong side of the road, etc

[Gil Abobeleira]

BTW, I think I did my sums wrong, so I think there only 20 points between me and Pirenzo. That means, to equal you I have to score 17 points at Albi and 3 more points than you at Snetterton... Hmm, win and Pole maybe?

[carsreunited]

I thought the whole point with the ring trainer was that you could deposit yourself at around 6 different points of the lap, that way you could either practice say the last section without having to do 7 minutes of driving to get there. My point was that after loading the trainer, i get deposited in the pits whichever section I choose to strat from.

Yours confusingly,

Scott

[pirenzo]

Did you copy the special track.ini over?

All it does is alter this line, found under [ pit_lane_0 ] in \gpl\tracks\nurburg\track.ini
stall_0 = 230.00 -9.30, which you can do manually.
230.00 is the distance along the track, -9.30 is the horizontal displacement from the centreline (beware that leaving it at -9.30 could mean the car getting put outside the drivable area, causing the game to crash)

[carsreunited]

I copied it over and removed the old one after renaming it and saving it elsewhere. I'll give it another go later. Thanks anyway William.

[Gil Abobeleira]

Can some Momo Force user tell me:

a) what drivers are they using;
b) the joystick values in the core.ini;
c) the config values (FFb, etc) on the logitech program.

I'm asking for this info because I stupiddly replaced my momo force for the driving force pro and got noew drivers and changed all the values (so much for keeping bacjups)... Now that i'm not going to sell the momo after all, I'm stuck with a very very strange FFb-wheel.......

[pirenzo]

Currently using the stock drivers from the disk.

My core.ini values are 0.085 latency, 55 damping and 314 torque. (that's quite 'soft', I don't like lots of force, just enough to feel)

Wingman profile is as below, but I leave the program itself switched off so I have no idea if they still have an effect, all I know is the wheel feels much better with it closed.
Effects Strength : 83%
Spring : 2%
Damping 22%
centering spring enabled but set at 0%

[petestenning]

One of my favorite tracks and i cant make it as i am on my Hols.
I was looking forward to another ding dong with Scott, I am also going to miss the Rouen round of GBGPL TOO


Pete

[Gil Abobeleira]

Thanks Pirenzo, maybe this way I'll have some chance to beat you (yeah right )

[carsreunited]

I'll be missing that one as well Pete (GBGPL) as I'm off to play golf in Dublin for a few days. I had a good race with Div2 at Roeun. I think I came 7th overall.

Just gone negative at Kyalami. Only by a tenth. It was more difficult than I imagined getting the last 0.5 sec. After fiddling with the gear spacing it seemed to do the trick. Still using the 85/65 diff at the moment. Roeun is next on my list as I'm about 0.5 seconds off there at the moment.

Oh, back on topic. The BRM isn't very quick at Snetterton in my hands. The hairdryer engine noise is doing my head in.

Scott

[Aysedasi]

I'd love to be there tonight in my Eagle, but it's looking increasingly unlikely. Unless there is an upturn in fortunes, time and everything else, I probably won't be at Albi either.......

[crozier74]

Track: Snett67 Tue Sep 13 21:24:19 2005

RACE RESULTS (After 24 laps)

Pos No Driver Team Nat Laps Race Time Diff
1 12 Richard Crozier Brabham GBR 24 34m40.549s - 15 pts
2 10 William Campbell Eagle GBR 24 34m43.414s 02.865s - 13 pts (+ 1 FL)
3 16 Gil Abobeleira Eagle POR 24 35m18.427s 37.878s - 10 pts (+ 1 PP)
4 8 Scott Gelsthorpe BRM GBR 21 35m39.858s 3 lap(s) - 7 pts
5 4 Spudgun Brabham GBR 0 DidNotStart 24 lap(s) - 6 pts

----------------------------------------------------

Championship Positions after Round 9:

1 - William Campbell - 112
2 - Gil Abobeleira - 89
3 - Spudgun - 73
4 - Owen Woodwards - 50
5 - Aysedasi - 39
= - Scott Gelsthorpe - 39
7 - Richard Crozier - 35
8 - Peter Stenning - 31
9 - TheFLC - 27
10 - Dani Filth - 24
11 - Jeremy Gallop - 7
12 - Adam Myers - 5

[pirenzo]

round 9 you mean?

[crozier74]

Curse you Copy/Paste function!

Mods? Please

[crozier74]

And while I'm at it:

Track: Snett67             Tue Sep 13 21:24:19 2005

PRACTICE TIMES

Pos No Driver                           Team     Nat      Time      Diff Laps
 1  16 Gil Abobeleira                   Eagle    POR 1m24.474s             21
 2  10 William Campbell                 Eagle    GBR 1m24.524s   00.050s   22
 3  12 Richard Crozier                  Brabham  GBR 1m25.761s   01.287s   20
 4   8 Scott Gelsthorpe                 BRM      GBR 1m28.539s   04.065s   19
 5   4  Spudgun                         Brabham  GBR   No time   No time    0

All times are official
Generated with GPL Replay Analyser

Track: Snett67             Tue Sep 13 21:24:19 2005

RACE RESULTS (After 24 laps)

Pos No Driver                          Team     Nat Laps   Race Time       Diff
 1  12 Richard Crozier                 Brabham  GBR   24  34m40.549s            
 2  10 William Campbell                Eagle    GBR   24  34m43.414s    02.865s 
 3  16 Gil Abobeleira                  Eagle    POR   24  35m18.427s    37.878s 
 4   8 Scott Gelsthorpe                BRM      GBR   21  35m39.858s   3 lap(s) 
 5   4  Spudgun                        Brabham  GBR    0 DidNotStart  24 lap(s) 


Race results are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

RACE FASTEST LAPS

Pos Driver                                 Time Lap
 1  William Campbell                  1m23.998s  16
 2  Gil Abobeleira                    1m24.277s  16
 3  Richard Crozier                   1m24.989s  15
 4  Scott Gelsthorpe                  1m30.581s  15
 5   Spudgun                            No time


LEADERS

Driver                           Laps
William Campbell                 1-17
Richard Crozier                  18-24

Number of lead changes: 1
Number of leaders: 2


LAPS LED

Driver                           Laps led
William Campbell                 17
Richard Crozier                  7


HIGHEST CLIMBER

Driver                           Start Finish  Change
Richard Crozier                      3      1       2  
Scott Gelsthorpe                     4      4       0  
William Campbell                     2      2       0  
 Spudgun                             5      5       0  
Gil Abobeleira                       1      3      -2  


ON TRACK LAPS

Driver                           Laps/Total    Percent
William Campbell                    (20/24)      83.33
Gil Abobeleira                      (14/24)      58.33
Richard Crozier                     (13/24)      54.17
Scott Gelsthorpe                     (6/21)      28.57


RACE LAPTIME CONSISTENCY
(first lap excluded)

Driver                    Avg Deviation  Std Deviation  Avg Laptime   Laps
Richard Crozier                   0.461          0.574    1m25.954s     24
William Campbell                  2.640          3.611    1m26.716s     24
Gil Abobeleira                    2.700          3.576    1m27.160s     24
Scott Gelsthorpe                  8.173         11.124    1m41.687s     21


All times are unofficial
(Replay might have been saved before end of race)

Generated with GPL Replay Analyser

Conratulations to William Campbell, TTFRL Season 4 champion!

[Gil Abobeleira]

Congratulations for Pirenzo, who deserved to win this championship. Congratulations also for Richard who, in "that" car, won the race at Snetterton

BTW: As i'm not in the hunt of the championship anymore, I won't race at Albi, Sorry guys, but having two important races in the same night is just a little bit too much for me....

[pirenzo]

Well, Spud needs to confirm the results first, but I hope that will be a formality, just like pretty much all the other races have been

Well, I'm afraid that might have been my final TTFRL race for the foreseeable future, but its been terrific fun, I'm just glad I could actually win the thing at last.
35 starts, and 10 wins I've had, I don't know why that seems so important to be honest but I'm oddly proud of it lol

[pirenzo]

Originally Posted by Gil Abobeleira

BTW: As i'm not in the hunt of the championship anymore, I won't race at Albi, Sorry guys, but having two important races in the same night is just a little bit too much for me....

Well, good luck for those races Gil
Its a shame really we couldn't have had a few more good battles like East London, Goodwood and the last lap at Spa.