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There are many Porsche fans that consider anything that's not a flat-6 not a "proper 911".The Carrera GT was/is considered by all as a "proper Porsche" and that had a V10. |
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29 Sep 2011, 13:34 (Ref:2962536) | #5327 | ||
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Porsche is gonna chose the engine that mechanicly , aerodinamicly best fits the platform.... they couldn't care less about using a flat-6 just because of tradition...
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29 Sep 2011, 20:07 (Ref:2962674) | #5328 | ||
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Interesting news about the Grand-Am Ferrari project
The Grand-Am Ferrari F458 Italia Don't Believe the Hype! http://www.oversteertv.net/Grand-Am.html |
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29 Sep 2011, 21:13 (Ref:2962711) | #5329 | ||
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Even if it doesn't sell as well as the main competitor exactly because the lack of character and tradition?
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29 Sep 2011, 21:32 (Ref:2962726) | #5330 | ||
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with the exception of the carrera gt, porsche has hit every sales target it set itself in the last decade, and carrera gt was built only to pay off the development of the canceled lmp1 project
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29 Sep 2011, 21:33 (Ref:2962727) | #5331 | ||
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30 Sep 2011, 02:42 (Ref:2962788) | #5332 | ||
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Sure, that's because they have never produced a Ferrari-expensive yet characterless car with no heritage. In the last few decades everything but the 911 has been either less expensive, or much more practical, or both... plus the Carrera GT which was clearly more exciting with its singing high-reving V10. 'Just another German V8' won't cut it against the 458.
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keep in mind the carrera gt was a enzo competitior witch was sold in 400 examples while the carrera gt sold in 1000+, I think their mark was 1200... |
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PS: AFAIK Enzo was bound to be limited to 400. |
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2 Oct 2011, 18:39 (Ref:2964419) | #5335 | ||
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Melo did a fantastic job at PLM .
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2 Oct 2011, 20:15 (Ref:2964466) | #5336 | ||
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wow, it reeks of sarcasm in here right now.
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*jingle* The New York Mets have a new left fielder... Duda, Duda “It's fine that F1 goes all over the world, but we must not exaggerate by going to race in deserts or where there is no culture for racing," di Montezemolo continued |
2 Oct 2011, 21:09 (Ref:2964492) | #5337 | ||
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who cares, ferrari just took LMS flawlessly, ILMC most likely and pettit le mans....
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3 Oct 2011, 06:35 (Ref:2964622) | #5338 | ||
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So did Fisi (im not being sarcastic btw). Forza AF Corse!
One prancing horse faltered, the other stepped in to fill the breach, what else did you think was going to happen? Great result for the 458 in such a long race. Congrats to Black Swan for winning the GTC championship, richly deserved. |
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Take a look at the competitions thread ..... I bet on AF Corse to win .
Im delighted that they did ..... especially since Bruni was in the car . He is one of my favourite drivers , along with Rob Bell . In my opinion AF Corse are a much more professional team than Risi are , imo . But Melo isnt very impresseive this year , imo . |
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Things change and evolve - there was a time when anything other than a V12 was not a 'proper' Ferrari but there are only a few stick in the mud veteran enthusiasts that still believe that.
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3 Oct 2011, 08:47 (Ref:2964701) | #5342 | ||
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Flat 12 would be pure orgasm! 5.5l Flat 12? Yes sir!
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And a 4L Ferrari V12 normally aspirated , ala 333SP . Little bumble bee engine , pure honest ear assault .
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4 Oct 2011, 06:07 (Ref:2965314) | #5346 | ||
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As much as that sounds good for nostalgia's sake its a shame that Porsche dont put the Carrera GT engine in something else because that V10 is one of the finest roadcar engines I've ever heard, up there with the Zonda and the McLaren F1. And I dont care that is has a Porsche badge, I'd own a CGT in a heartbeat, just a shame I'd run out of talent before the car did and there'd be one less Carrera GT in the world .
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4 Oct 2011, 14:42 (Ref:2965569) | #5348 | ||
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So if you want to make this about Porsche heritage, they can do everything from looking way back to the Lohner-Porsche hybrid to more recent engines such as the V10 used in the Carrera GT, the V8s used outside of the 911/Boxster/Cayman lineup and the racing V8 used in the RS Spyder. They have used a wide range of engine configurations over the years. My 2 cents is that when they build the 918 (most likely a low volume car), that it will get a bespoke engine. And that it is likely to be at a minimum a modern V8 with all of the usual tricks. However as part of the development of the engine for the 918, they may also plan to recoup some of that development cost by also using reusing some of that to develop a similar engine for the car between the 918 and 911. And that they will incorporate plenty of design elements into the car to make it recognizable as a Porsche by the faithful. Richard |
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4 Oct 2011, 21:59 (Ref:2965816) | #5349 | ||
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while my coments are usualy to provoke you porsche fans, and my preferance is clear, I have however repeaditly defended posche against other attakers and complimented them on occasion. The reson is simple I conside porsche to be on the same level as ferrari, and love some of thier cars. no other manuf has the heratige, passion and pure coolnes of these two, nor do they even come close, IMO of caurse.
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