[VASC19R25] SuperCheap Auto Bathurst 1000, Mount Panorama 10-13th October (WITH POLL)

[HDTVKSS]

Originally Posted by Trevor

**** me, CAMS have come out and said no rule has been broken, what part of that are you missing for ****s sake!!!!!

I'm flattered, maybe even a little curious but sorry, you're not my type.

[Trevor]

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[HDTVKSS]

Originally Posted by Trevor

****ing typical gay response from a T8 supporter

such hurtful. much homophobia.

[Trevor]

ah well


lets clear this one up now - "phobia = an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something", no fear here matey, nah not all, couldn't give a **** what they get up, you offered yourself up in your previous post and I just responded

Typical millennial throwing terms about where you have no understanding of their meaning, but you all chant the same chants

[thunderbolt]

Originally Posted by blizard

Does anyone actually know what penalties can be applied when Penske are found guilty of influencing the race result?

https://wwos.nine.com.au/motorsport/...94-0b0cf501cb6

f with an angry Coulthard declaring he's a "scapegoat".

https://www.speedcafe.com/2018/11/16...rders-rule/The ruling currently states;

“D24.1 Team Orders

“24.1.1 Means an instruction to a Driver or Team member, either verbal or otherwise the effect of which may interfere with a race result.

“24.1.2 It is not permitted for any sponsor, supplier, entity or related entity, including an Automobile manufacturer, importer or their representative to impose or seek to impose Team orders, on any Team.”

However, Speedcafe.com has since sought clarification which has resulted in the championship confirming that the rules were amended prior to the start of the season.

The wording of last year’s 24.1.2 rule included the word ‘team’ among the parties that are restricted from giving team orders.

As a result, Triple Eight’s actions at Pukekohe were not in breach of regulations with Supercars confirming that “these parties (in Rule 24.1.2) do not include Teams or Drivers giving or receiving instructions within their own Teams.”

The ruling was originally constructed to stop teams ganging up on each other which was particularly prevalent during the peak of the Ford and Holden rivalry.

[Trevor]

so, has someone posted up the audio where the team gave Fabs an order to slow the field?

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by Trevor

and neither did DJRTP. Unless you evidence they did then shut the **** up - or are you a CAMS plant and knows something everyone else doesn't

"a CAMS plant", "Skaife is a 888 spy"

Is your tinfoil hat on a bit tight?

Just for Peter Adderton: the driver your forced out came second, and the team you left came 3rd and 8th.

Your "super team" of youth came 12th & 13th, and your star signing Richie Stanaway showed what a peanut he really is.

[HDTVKSS]

Originally Posted by Trevor

ah well


lets clear this one up now - "phobia = an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something", no fear here matey, nah not all, couldn't give a **** what they get up, you offered yourself up in your previous post and I just responded

Typical millennial throwing terms about where you have no understanding of their meaning, but you all chant the same chants

the dead sea used to be the saltiest thing on the earth until you fired up this afternoon.

and yeah nah, not millennial but good for you to not generalise and discriminate based on age.

[HDTVKSS]

Originally Posted by Trevor

so, has someone posted up the audio where the team gave Fabs an order to slow the field?

"slow down, slow down, use extreme caution..." funnily enough they didn't seem too concerned about the safety of the car running second racing away in front?

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by HDTVKSS

https://au.motorsport.com/v8supercar...ipped/4558136/



So they are having a good look at the race engines. interesting - I can't recall this happening in the past?



Its not like Penske teams are known for their high standards of playing outside the rules on occasion.....

Engines are regularly pulled down & checked - plus normal practice after Bathurst.

[Mixer]

Barry Ryan feels DJRTP significantly altered the race and that they should be excluded as a team from the event to "set a precedent"

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/10/15...Bf73xAQxOH96pI

One does wonder what PitSmart says.

[Compromised]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Barry Ryan feels DJRTP significantly altered the race and that they should be excluded as a team from the event to "set a precedent"

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/10/15...Bf73xAQxOH96pI

One does wonder what PitSmart says.

Do we really want to go down this "altered the race" path? Jesus, good luck writing coherent, simple rules for that. How do you define altered? Everything alters something...


For example, sending a clearly incapacitated driver (say.. fatigued legs) out for a big stint alters the race - other drivers have to deal with his slow pace, saftey car might have to come out if he ends up in the wall etc.

[craig1]

So who won the 2008 Singapore GP?

[bluesport]

Why do I know that if the shoe was on the other foot this whole scenario would then be regarded as a storm in a teacup?

[Mixer]

Yeah that is a, joke. 2 year suspended sentence and not even losing the race result.

[Umai Naa]

Let's take our red/blue tinted glasses off for a minute, and try to look at this whole fiasco with maturity and decorum.

Oh wait, it's to do with sport...

[blizard]

Originally Posted by Mixer

Barry Ryan feels DJRTP significantly altered the race and that they should be excluded as a team from the event to "set a precedent"

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/10/15...Bf73xAQxOH96pI

One does wonder what PitSmart says.

They did penalise everyone elses race (bar one) by 46sec. That can't be allowed.

[rich07]

Originally Posted by Umai Naa

Let's take our red/blue tinted glasses off for a minute, and try to look at this whole fiasco with maturity and decorum.

Oh wait, it's to do with sport...

These are Supercars fans discussing this-you were expecting level heads? Lol

I can’t believe how many people have fallen for that idiot James Phelps and his suggestion the win may be in doubt. The McLaughlin Premat car did nothing wrong so I can’t see any precedent for them being stripped of the win.

There’s a possibility for the team copping a penalty but that’s about it.

Oh and engine checks aren’t that odd either. I would think that it’d be a common occurrence for the top three after the biggest race regardless of what happened in the race.

Cmon Tenthers I thought you were smarter then this. This ain’t the cesspool that is the Speedcafe comments section.

[Average Punter]

Originally Posted by Jamolad

...so would love to hear car 12's radio and car 17's radio overlayed.

They would want to hope the message to Scotty was consistent with what they are claiming re not knowing where the issue was.

Saved you the trouble. At the same time as #12's engineer was telling Fabs to slow down and beware of the Bridge of Death, #17's engineer was shouting "push, push, push..."
(Foxtel coverage during the Lap 135 safety car)

Natsoft shows on Lap 135
#12 2.54.001
#17 2.08.3199

[craig1]

Like I asked, Singapore 2008 F1 GP.
The result still stands after all that went on.

Scott/Alex will keep the win and rightfully so.

[David Towe]

Surely this is the most unsportsmanlike act ever seen in Australian motorsport? The 4 wheeled version of Trevor Chappel. DJR should be stripped of the win and given a holiday for a few meetings. Disgusting behaviour and I don't give damn who won or could have, I'm not a V8 Kit car fan at all so no vested interest here.

[Compromised]

Originally Posted by Average Punter

Natsoft shows on Lap 135
#12 2.54.001
#17 2.08.3199

*Plot twist*

Scott's lap time is the more controversial but Supercars implicitly allow that kind of "safety".

[GTRMagic]

Originally Posted by Compromised

*Plot twist*

Scott's lap time is the more controversial but Supercars implicitly allow that kind of "safety".

Mr Fullwood discovered he was in the wrong, albeit ~2s faster on his lap with local yellows...

[Woolley]

Originally Posted by JAFA851

Question is, which 2 Tickford cars will take each other out this year?

Since there was a poll for winner predictions on this thread, I think this contribution requires a special award. Maybe a nail in a plinth with something hitting it squarely on the head.

[Compromised]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Mr Fullwood discovered he was in the wrong, albeit ~2s faster on his lap with local yellows...

I'm struggling to see the difference between Bryce's and Scott's laps from a safety perspective - not sure the <2% difference is such that one driver gets penalized but not the other...