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Old 12 Dec 2013, 17:56 (Ref:3343232)   #526
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I know that us on this board aren't the biggest Tom Chilton fans but we've got to like that his father's sponsorship money is keeping Tom Coronel in the WTCC next year, just like it kept RML and Yvan Muller in the WTCC this year.
I am not sure this is true. In his press relase Coronel names a lot sponsors (McGregor, TW Steel -big in oversized watches-, Valvoline, AllSecur, Amando, AkzoNobel stickerfixtm , Equinix, De Wild Multi Print Solutions, Bouwgroep Dijkstra Draisma, Intrax and Super-B) but AON is not part of that list.
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I am not sure this is true. In his press relase Coronel names a lot sponsors (McGregor, TW Steel -big in oversized watches-, Valvoline, AllSecur, Amando, AkzoNobel stickerfixtm , Equinix, De Wild Multi Print Solutions, Bouwgroep Dijkstra Draisma, Intrax and Super-B) but AON is not part of that list.
well in his own press release of course he's only going to name his own sponsors, not Chilton's. I don't know it just seemed like Coronel was very down on the prospects of him having a 2014 drive. to me it looks like Chilton coming on board is the thing that took ROAL's 2014 budget to the point where they can run a 2 car team.
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i'm not angry with a modest driver like coronel or chilton cause they are full of sponsors.

im agrry with sponsors cause i would like to understand why they give money to these drivers rather than choose champions drivers like menu, rydell or giovanardi!
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i'm not angry with a modest driver like coronel or chilton cause they are full of sponsors.

im agrry with sponsors cause i would like to understand why they give money to these drivers rather than choose champions drivers like menu, rydell or giovanardi!
I don't see the issue with Chilton or Coronel. They're both proven drivers at both national and international level.
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Old 13 Dec 2013, 11:27 (Ref:3343619)   #530
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im agrry with sponsors cause i would like to understand why they give money to these drivers rather than choose champions drivers like menu, rydell or giovanardi!
Because they have either the right passport, a filthy-rich family member who is willing tu support them or they are simply better at dealing with potential sponsors...
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Old 13 Dec 2013, 11:29 (Ref:3343620)   #531
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I have heard a rumour Chilton has bought his own car, if that's the case ROAL are just running it for him and have had to raise significantly less money as a team to buy just one RML Chevy for themselves. How true this is i'm not sure, just what i've heard.
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I have heard a rumour Chilton has bought his own car, if that's the case ROAL are just running it for him and have had to raise significantly less money as a team to buy just one RML Chevy for themselves. How true this is i'm not sure, just what i've heard.
This was confirmed a couple of weeks ago.

''Looking ahead to 2014, Chilton has put in the second order after Hugo Valente for one of RML’s new Chevrolet Cruzes, however who will run the car is as yet undecided. It won’t be RML, who’ve elected to not run their own race team next season and concentrate on customer support and work towards a full return in 2015.

Chilton’s focus is on getting the best package available to run him next season, mindful that the cheapest option might not yield the best results from the new car, which will have limited testing before the season begins in Marrakech in April.

“There’s obviously a few options down the pit lane, and everyone promises lots of things,” he said. “But at the end of the day I can’t finalise anything until I get my sponsors finalised…and there’s a big difference in price between which teams you go with.”''


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I wrote the Spanish-language Wikipedia article on Tom Chilton a few days ago. He's has very decent results. I can't complain at all for having a top ride in WTCC.
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Old 13 Dec 2013, 14:31 (Ref:3343702)   #534
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This was confirmed a couple of weeks ago.

''Looking ahead to 2014, Chilton has put in the second order after Hugo Valente for one of RML’s new Chevrolet Cruzes, however who will run the car is as yet undecided. It won’t be RML, who’ve elected to not run their own race team next season and concentrate on customer support and work towards a full return in 2015.

Chilton’s focus is on getting the best package available to run him next season, mindful that the cheapest option might not yield the best results from the new car, which will have limited testing before the season begins in Marrakech in April.

“There’s obviously a few options down the pit lane, and everyone promises lots of things,” he said. “But at the end of the day I can’t finalise anything until I get my sponsors finalised…and there’s a big difference in price between which teams you go with.”''


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Teach me for not paying attention to what goes out in the press! Ha, thanks.
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Old 14 Dec 2013, 17:08 (Ref:3344037)   #535
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Chilton's father has quit Aon to form his own company and Aon are withdrawing from motorsport sponsorship...
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i'm not angry with a modest driver like coronel or chilton cause they are full of sponsors.

im agrry with sponsors cause i would like to understand why they give money to these drivers rather than choose champions drivers like menu, rydell or giovanardi!
Why Tom Coronel has sponsors?
--- Tom Coronel is a good driver.
--- Tom Coronel is a good business man.
--- Tom Coronel is a fan favourite.

Oke, Tom Coronel is maybe not a WTCC champion, but he also never had the car to become champion with.

btw, all the three drivers you mention also have NOT been WTCC champion. Oke, they might be champion in BTCC or ETCC, but Tom Coronel also has been champion in other series, for example Formula Nippon and had a F1-test.

I still can see your point when you say a backmarker in the WTCC gets sponsorship and f.e. Giovanardi not.
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Tom Coronel is also Dutch and you guys are nuts; so that helps.
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Tom Coronel is also Dutch and you guys are nuts; so that helps.
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Old 15 Dec 2013, 21:03 (Ref:3344379)   #539
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Easy guys, easy. Funding has always been a problem for drivers and I don't think Menu, Rydell or Gio is in lack of support anyway. Menu, in particular, is just too aged to be as competitve as the young. Age and experience helps in GT and endurance, not full-of-contact touring car apparently.
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Easy guys, easy. Funding has always been a problem for drivers and I don't think Menu, Rydell or Gio is in lack of support anyway. Menu, in particular, is just too aged to be as competitve as the young. Age and experience helps in GT and endurance, not full-of-contact touring car apparently.
Muller and Tarquini are the oldest men in WTCC and yet they are always the bests!
Menu would have won the title in 2012 if muller didnt crash him in the second race of china!
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Being the best doesn't matter if you can't sell yourself.
Wasn't always so. Used to be you could get paid being a touring car specialist, and if things stays like this the future of the sport is looking grim. People want to get paid, yo.
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Yup, but times are changing. Sitting at home waiting for that AAA-sponsor to show up at the doorstep doesn't cut it, you need to work hard for it.
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Lopez confirmed in 3rd Citroen
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From the Citroën Press-conference: Pechito Lopez confirmed as a 3rd driver, a 4th car will be entered in the Asian rounds with a Chinese driver who's currently being negotiated. More news on the Chinese driver will follow in a couple of weeks.
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I love how this is being reported as Citroen "picking" Lopez, rather than the fact he came with a shed-load of cash to pay for the third car.
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I love how this is being reported as Citroen "picking" Lopez, rather than the fact he came with a shed-load of cash to pay for the third car.
Is that the case then? I did believe he was picked because of his performance in Argentina last year, I guess I'm a bit naieve sometimes
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Is that the case then? I did believe he was picked because of his performance in Argentina last year, I guess I'm a bit naieve sometimes
Yep! Well that and the fact Citroen are keen to sell cars in South America, as it is one of the growing markets (alongside Eastern Asia).

http://www.psa-peugeot-citroen.com/e...national-sales

In first-half 2013, global automobile markets expanded by 3%, a slight increase that masks important differences, with declines of 7% in Europe and 5.5% in Russia, but growth of 6% in Latin America and 16% in China, the world's largest automobile market.

It's little wonder they are concentrating in those areas. Whilst those are PSA specific numbers, it's inline with overall market trends.

The only reason they don't have a Chinese driver full-time is because, honestly, there aren't any drivers available and to the standard required yet. I'm sure whoever they end up running in the Asian rounds will be with a view to developing them into a full-time driver.
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Pechito won three TC2000 titles in 2008, 2009 and 2012, and finished 5th in 2007, 2011 and 2013.

He was the 2009 Top Race champion, second in 2011, and the 2013 is in discussion.

He was second the the 2009 Turismo Carretera playoffs and fourth in the 2011 championship.

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The only reason they don't have a Chinese driver full-time is because, honestly, there aren't any drivers available and to the standard required yet. I'm sure whoever they end up running in the Asian rounds will be with a view to developing them into a full-time driver.
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