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According to twitter it sounds like they've been given the green light
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Having read the latest decisions of the World Council as reported by Pitpass http://www.pitpass.com/51913/World-M...ncil-decisions , I am firmly of the belief that the lunatics have now taken full control of the asylem. Although some of the measures deserve some merit, others are plain stupid.
However, would somebody like to explain why FIA has to legislate that the brake discs must rotate at the same speed as the wheel. This suggest that someone has already or may intend to detach the wheel from the disc, which poses the question about how that somebody intended to retard the wheels if they are not attached to each other? But on a flippant aside about the above, it can only be the centres of the wheel and the disc and then up to the outer edge of the disc that will be able to maintain the same terminal velocity as the same point on the wheel. |
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What's the betting that the standing re-starts after safety car periods gets dropped for 2016 once it's seen how poorly it works in practice. Also has it been clarified as to whether they can change tyres on the grid as under a red flag, whether they can use tyre warmers while waiting for the re-start (the ban of these has been dropped!), or will they have extra formation laps prior to the standing start to get heat into the tyres? |
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Piecing together what I've read* Safety Car comes out, laps whilst incident dealt with lapped cars to unlap laps whilst they get to then back of queue notify safety car in safety car pulls in Cars still under yellows roll into grid slots 5 light sequence (but given they are red not sure how that will work) standing start on cold/ low pressured tyres * probably will end up nothing like this. It does give some interesting safety car/pit scenarios as far as strategy goes a: Do as now and pit as soon as the safety car is called - get track position, but then run around slowly on new tyres for X number of laps possibly through initial debris before doing a standing start on them b: wait until the lapped cars get their call and then pit - drops you to the back of the "lead lap" runners before the lapped cars come around behind you. But you have the advantage of only having to go around perhaps twice on the tyres (debris will have been cleared by then) before the standing start c: (if it's allowed) follow the safety car into the pits, whilst the rest of the grid forms, you do the pitstop and trundle to the pitlane stop light, timing it so that the you reach the end as it goes green. OK you exit the pits at the back of the pack on the freshest straight from the warmers tyres and you haven't put your clutch through another standing start |
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All you would need is a one way clutch set up where the wheel cannot drive the brake disc but the disc will stop the wheel turning under braking. What "rule" did they find to ban this under, or did they just make it up as they went along? |
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One change that seems to have passed without comment is that from 2015, both sporting and technical regulations can be amended at any time up to 1st March each year for that season's racing without the requirement to have unanimous agreement.
What does not seem clear at this moment, to me at least, is whether that will affect the 2015 season or whether that becomes effective commencing with the 2016 season. |
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There are a number of drivers/teams that are having issues, but that would seem more to do with them being unable to adopt to the new braking systems, i.e. braking-by-wire. This is not uncommon whereby any manual/mechanical system is replaced by an electronic one, and no more so than in aviation.
There, it can take hours and hours to pilots to be re-trained to change from one system to another, and this is why Airbus originally introduced computer-driven overrides to stop pilots over/under compensating during certain manoeuvres. What it does not suggest to me is that those drivers/teams having brake issues are try to separate the brake disc from the wheel. |
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From 2015 the cars will be deemed to be in parc fermé from the first time they leave the pit lane during FP3. With this change of regulation it is quite foreseeable drivers will not do any running during FP3.
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So, lap down wave by, now they have push to pass, mandatory two tire compounds, all gimmicks used by Indy and TUSCC, doesn't work for them, why not copy them and add DRS and standing restarts. Won't be long before there's no more racing, just gimmick management.
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forgot to add they'll need competition yellows to get more restarts to get more crashes.
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