[WEC] Porsche GTP / Hypercar: factory and customer

[Spyderman]

Quite a few changes. This is what I have noticed:
- Higher front wing
- smaller dive planes
- extended front and different shape of the lights
- Side of the front section is dented in on the sides.
- Gills on the side pods are shaped differently towards the bottom
- longer rear wheel covers with smaller hole
- Solid (not shaped) end-plates for the rear wing

Have not seen the rain light yet.

BTW - Audi completely under wraps. Must be hiding something very special.

[chernaudi]

The changes on the Porsche reinforce what was recently said that the package run at Silverstone and Spa would be the basis for the LM kit. Just relatively minor changes to optimize for LM aside from trying to get a low downforce package to work at the sprint races.

[Spyderman]

There are actually more changes than I expected.

[Akrapovic]

The black and red ones are beautiful.

[sssssssss]

quite a lot of changes and the cars look awesome. i think these will blast down the mulsanne straight and the mulsanne-indianapolis straight.

[Spyderman]

I sincerely hope that Norbert Singer hasn't gone over to the dark side!

[Victor_RO]

Last I heard NS was a consultant for the ACO actually.

[WMUCarGuy]

Originally Posted by Articus

I was looking at that as well and interesting. I also noticed the rear wing is mounted a bit higher than what I remember seeing on the Audi.

That's probably just how they mount it when being transported. It surely won't be that high when they hit the track.

[Spyderman]

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Last I heard NS was a consultant for the ACO actually.

Ooh! Almost as bad!

[J Jay]

No need for alarm everyone - they're clearly discussing Martin Winterkon's confidential memo that details plans for Audi and Porsche to withdraw from sportscars and enter F1. No big deal

This should be obvious enough, I hope nobody falls for it...

[GTfour]

Originally Posted by J Jay

No need for alarm everyone - they're clearly discussing Martin Winterkon's confidential memo that details plans for Audi and Porsche to withdraw from sportscars and enter F1. No big deal

This should be obvious enough, I hope nobody falls for it...

I don't think Porsche will leave sportscars. I suspect they're out to up their Le Mans wins considerably over Audi.

[Deleted]

Hulkenberg tweeted today "jezz the straights are long"

Trust me Nico, you will be missing your bicycle if 919 breaks down or has flat on Mulsanne.

[Spyderman]

This is one beautiful car.

[gustavobamba]

[500]

Originally Posted by Spyderman

This is one beautiful car.

I totally agree... For me it seems that although the 919 shape has seemingly only evolved in a very subtle way, it nonetheless looks much better this year, even in white. I this the treatment around the side windows has helped a lot, and the nose seems much more of a piece.

[Spyderman]

Hartley does not think 3:15 or 3:16 will be achieved : http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/jou...et-pedro-lamy/

[gustavobamba]

Porsche will do 1-2-3 in qualifying this year at Le Mans IMHO

But I have to be honest with 2 things:

- Audi are the mais favourites to Win this year
- I don´t know why... but Toyota his hiding something… i have a strange feling about them… they will be serious contenders.

P.S. Nissan is "ages" away from everything… let´s hope they will perform better in 2 weeks time… or else!!!!!!!!!!

[Gingers4Justice]

Originally Posted by Spyderman

This is one beautiful car.

But it still has its moments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUcANrehiNc

[joeb]

Does the Porsche potentially have an illegal wing endplate?

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...ar-wing-trick/

[Spyderman]

Originally Posted by joeb

Does the Porsche potentially have an illegal wing endplate?

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...ar-wing-trick/

Well if Porsche does, then so does Audi... according to the artical.

[PascaLM]

Originally Posted by joeb

Does the Porsche potentially have an illegal wing endplate?

http://www.racecar-engineering.com/n...ar-wing-trick/

Now the question is : will Toyota appeal against this ?

[MyNameIsNigel]

Originally Posted by PascaLM

Now the question is : will Toyota appeal against this ?

It will be interesting to see how Toyota react. Last year, neither Audi nor Porsche lodged any official complaint with respect to the flexi-wing solution used by Toyota at LM.

[TF110]

"Who had it first?" Great question! The advantages of being a part of the VAG, there might be some sharing of ideas?

[Richard C]

I haven't read the rules in question (need to do so), so I only know the details as listed in the RE article. I guess overall these are endplates that are not really endplates because they are not physically "attached" or "connected" (not sure what wording is used in the rules) to the endplates.

One thing that seems interesting to me is that according to the article the endplates have to have minimum thickness (10mm) and rounded radius (5mm) on the edges. I can see how the Porsche solution follows that (leading and trailing edges seem to have the same thickness and radius of curvature), but the Audi has a half lap/step design that I can't see how it fits those regulations (thinner than minimum and with smaller radius within the half lap/step area). The RE article also questions how that part of the Audi solution is viewed as legal.

I could imagine another solution in that you could have an endplate that has the 5mm edge radius (convex) with the "bodywork extension" having a matching 5mm radius (concave). So it could have a smooth transition between the two, but with no physical connection (slide a piece of paper between the two). clearly the mating of the convex and concave provides some level of "connection" at speed with aero forces trying to move things around. The half lap/step of the Audi provides some "connection" IMHO and I think you could argue that the Porsche solution provides some "connection" as well as I think the Porsche solution wraps around the endplate on the bottom? Do the rules define what a "connection" is?

Richard

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by TF110

"Who had it first?" Great question! The advantages of being a part of the VAG, there might be some sharing of ideas?

I would still be shocked if this is happening given both Audi and Porsche want to beat each other so why give either a leg up. But who knows. The only scenario I can come up with that involves sharing is if someone within VAG that is above both Audi and Porsche comes into knowledge of a loophole that they might share that info with both teams. But I suspect any trick discovered by either team is not shared directly with the other.

Richard