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Extrapolation of data is tough when you only have so much of it in front of you. I think Spa is a relative track, though, you'll be able to spend more time on boost, versus off boost due to length of the straights. It's nearly four times the length at Le Mans So... using the KERS at Le Mans won't end up giving you the same net effect as it will at Spa, or anywhere else. Will there be a jump? Yes, will it be 10+ seconds, I doubt it...I'm betting it'll be about 4-7. |
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Well...with rain forecasted (so far) perhaps we wont see those "magical" times. It will be interesting however, to watch the regulators adapt the narrative to justify the forthcoming castration. (or perhaps they wont even bother)
I've reached a point now that if they are going to "condemn" these cars to death, then at least let them be guilty of the "crime". |
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Lets wait and see what the rule makers decide on. I think a drop in fuel flow is the obvious move. But maybe the drop the allowable energy per lap in fuel is too simple?
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Well...for me, what ever they do is an unnecessary step. The cars are perfect as they are. They are very close (even Toyota.. I think some will be surprised) at Le Mans. I just don't think any intervention is warranted at the moment . Sadly I am in the minority, so if I am forced to watch these magnificent cars being put before a firing squad, then I wouldn't mind seeing the crime for which they are supposedly guilty.
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8 Jun 2015, 06:33 (Ref:3546020) | #5881 | |
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Well I wouldn't call 2-4% less fuel a castration, it would not be visible to a naked eye except for the lap time.
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Do you know if this is "all" that they will do?
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On short notice (a month and a bit before the Nurburgring test) that's all they CAN do (reduced fuel flow and some extra weight) without annoying the factory teams by causing them to do some severe re-engineering on their cars.
And until we see what they actually plan, can we be a bit less melodramatic about these potential changes? |
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I apologize if I hurt your sensibilities, but you know what? "Not being offended" is not a right.
As for being melodramatic: It certainly wasn't me that started harping on about a ridiculous 3:30 lap time and it certainly wasn't me that ran around predicting the sky was going to fall because the cars are "simply too fast". Perhaps if the regulators were a little more reasonable in their assertions, then one would not have to resort to hyperbole (although lost on some) in order to manifest their displeasure and opinions. Last edited by Spyderman; 8 Jun 2015 at 07:42. |
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8 Jun 2015, 09:32 (Ref:3546069) | #5885 | ||
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Here are a number of facts and figures from Porsche:http://newsroom.porsche.com/en/motor...mp1-11087.html
In relation to the top speed figures discussed previously, I found these two to be interesting:
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Have I read it right that Porsche and Toyota didn't have to turn up to scrutineering yesterday? Massive shame if true.
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8 Jun 2015, 10:53 (Ref:3546094) | #5887 | ||
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No - They are scheduled for today.http://www.24h-lemans.com/wpphpFichi...-mans-2015.pdf
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It says "at a local garage." Of course they're going to be scrutineered - just a shame if they're not longer required to turn up in the city centre.
EDIT - I'm confused now, does the "city-centre" scruinteering now take place on the Sunday/Monday? |
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8 Jun 2015, 10:57 (Ref:3546098) | #5890 | ||
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Yes. They split it over two days.
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8 Jun 2015, 15:03 (Ref:3546164) | #5893 | ||
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It looks like the Porsche also still have the "debatable" (or not so "debatable") rear wing end plate extensions:
(source: Endurance-Info.com) It increasingly looks like this solution may be deemed allowable by the ACO-FIA. |
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8 Jun 2015, 15:09 (Ref:3546167) | #5894 | ||
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As I posted in the Toyota thread: Mike Fuller says there is "nothing to this" and that there "no one is worried about this".
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Given that apparently this has been run before by other teams (Toyota?) and there has not been a challenge or rules clarification since then, I suspect that it's usage (or not) is more about... "Does this concept work for us?" vs. "Is it legal?" Aero ideas seem to fall in out out of favor on a regular basis.
I actually am still not sure how the Audi version fits the regulations, but apparently it does. Richard |
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All 56 cars have passed scrutineering "with flying colors" according to the ACO's official statement. The ACO are evidently satisfied that Audi's and Porsche's solutions are both complying with their interpretation of the rules.
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It think tyre wear is 100% correlated with how aggressive they boost out of the corners. This just means they have to find the right balance between race pace and pit stop time.
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10 Jun 2015, 05:25 (Ref:3546737) | #5899 | ||
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From what I can tell from the weather forecasts, it looks like tonight might be a good time to put in a quick lap.
The race looks like it will start dry and then rain will come at around 2AM Sunday morning and stay until the end of the race. It looks like it is going to be a very tough one! |
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...and so it starts:http://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/l...ction-in-2016/
At least it seems that the ridiculous 3:30 lap time has been put to bed. |
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