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I would have guessed that is the case.
There is no rule about who gets ticket revenue, or any other revenue, who pays who, who promotes it, etc... All deals for race meetings are agreed independently and must satisfy both parties. At one extreme you have F1 and others the club meets. This will fall in between, but I don’t recall seeing specific details ever. Although I’m not that bothered. |
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Agreed on that, just hope that the race is here for a good few more seasons at least. Hopefully the track will be in good financial shape and the ACO/FIA wants to be racing there.
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Olly Jarvis steps in for an injured Chris Dyson at Ginetta for Silverstone.
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2019/0...lverstone.html And this Goodyear-liveried Jota ORECA looks good! http://www.dailysportscar.com/2019/0...r-fia-wec.html |
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Nice to see Jarvis being given a chance, Ginetta should benefit a bit from him
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Cars look stunning in Pit-Lane, Blue seems the new colour of choice in LMP2 ( 6/8 ). Getting excited now, even if on paper it's a weakened grid, it will still be epic !
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This time in 2 days i will be watching the cars rather than imagining them.
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Technically this isn't the first time for this timing, the 2010 ILMC season started off from Silverstone in September as well
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Only thing with that is that the 2010 ILMC was only a handful of races during the fall of 2010. IMO, more a dry run than anything else for what would eventually become the WEC.
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I'm not sure about other international events, I guess some of them will pay Silverstone because they want to race there and others are paid by Silverstone because they want them/can make a profit on them. National events will hire the circuit to run their meetings. And no, 4 hours isn't enough. I want 8 or even 12 ideally |
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a return to 6 hours would be acceptable
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29 Aug 2019, 12:58 (Ref:3924659) | #588 | |
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Nobody likes Silverstone. Don't need more than 4 hours. Don't read the surveys.
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Pre-2010 Silverstone was amazing. The new layout is boring and sterile, and the site looks like an industrial zone at places. Even Shanghai has more of a character. It's also annoying to have WEC and ELMS grids separately when they could easily be integrated as per the olden golden days. Anyway I'm looking forward to Silverstone Classic next year now that they're covering the goodness that is Masters Endurance Legends
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If the WEC had some decent support race series with it, this wouldn't be much of an issue. But outside of the WEC P/Q/race sessions, most race weekend content seems to be kinda barren.
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Sebring and Bahrain just became more important and the 6/4 hours even less than before, so the correct way (at least for Toyota) to "play" the game of success ballast will indeed be to sandbag hard at Shanghai and Interlagos in order to max out scoring opportunities. So I think they will hand out wins to Rebellion there... Such would also make the rivalry seem more "exciting")
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Surely you mean pre-1991 before they slowed it down with the Brooklands Luffield complex? This is the circuit Keke set his lap. Or if you want to take that further the mid ‘70s before there was even a chicane at Woodcote. Whatever the change in 2010 made the circuit better, especially as Abbey had already been chicaned (that’s a new verb) in the later ‘90s. It made it better from a driver’s point of view as it added faster more challenging corners (and actually more elevation change!). I much prefer it. It is also better from a spectator point of view as it introduced some good grandstand viewing in the new bits that often had actual racing. As for it being like an industrial zone. That’s not new. Quote:
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Won't be attending Silverstone for race day for the first time since 2008 (first Le Mans Series race).
Can't justify £45 for a reduced race length, no support race increase, and a worse grid than previous years. They've basically lopped 2 hours off the end of the day, made no change to improve the day and said pay the same as before. I love my racing across all disciplines and particularly love my sportscar racing, but this is just... No Saturday for £30 is a much better bet to watch 2 sessions of WEC and get a full days track action but Porsche cup cars and ELMS grid with little variety doesn't excite me like it used to. Quote:
More elevation change? Bridge corner was the biggest noticeable elevation change on the entire circuit before... unless you're counting the cut through on the international layout...? |
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You’re right on that, especially as most of the elevation change is in the pit lane now! It’s never been a Spa!
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Bridge was even with the Abbey chicane a better high speed corner than the new Abbey or Brooklands thanks to the compression. The new shape of Club is truly awful as well. As far as extending the course out and giving more space to stretch the legs as it were to better suit F1 and endurance racing the arena layout works pretty well though.
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I disagree. I think it's given a good overtaking opportunity down the wellington straight. Like the old left right flick before Woodcote 87-90
Anyway Rebellion already faster than Toyota. We'll see if that lasts long enough |
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Club has had that style since 1991. The run off is now something that people can get behind whinging about.
Beige was cool. There was a nice small grandstand to watch it from too, but Abbey into farm is good fun. Had a nice tank slapped there! |
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Since there's no race thread yet, just gonna post here that the #1 Rebellion led the two Toyotas in first practice. They set a 1:38.8 to go .4xx seconds clear of Nakajima in the #8. This time is also 1.1 seconds better than the ultimate best in the same session last year (from the #7 Toyota) and about 1.4 seconds better than their own best time from 2018's fp1. You could chalk it up to the resurface of the track but there's definitely big improvement from Rebellion from a little over a year ago.
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