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30 Jan 2012, 08:21 (Ref:3018769) | #576 | |
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30 Jan 2012, 08:26 (Ref:3018771) | #577 | ||
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I know I could not possibly persuade the knockers and haters on this thread, or the V8ST thread for that matter, which is why I sent a private pm to Revhead when he expressed his concerns about the safety of our cars. The explanation was sent to him in good faith yet he choose to publish it on this thread in order to make capital of it. Mark Petch. V8Supertourers Ltd |
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30 Jan 2012, 09:17 (Ref:3018787) | #578 | ||
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Capital my arse.
Several times you have sent a PM instead of answering valid questions and/or statements in the body of the thread. At no point did you say "please keep this to yourself" In fact I replied to your pm asking why you chose to not reply in thread. You did not reply so I posted it in here. So don't come moaning on on here about me being a hater or whatever. Pull ya head in and participate in the discussion or bugger off. Those pics quite clearly show either an incomplete car, or an inferior design. |
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30 Jan 2012, 09:18 (Ref:3018788) | #579 | ||
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30 Jan 2012, 09:21 (Ref:3018790) | #580 | |||
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Anyone moaning about fuel cell placement in a SC is obviously full of it, or has not seen it in place. Take a look at those pics again. It's not inside with the driver. It's enclosed in a steel casing. Looks like the rear bulkhead extends out to enclose it. |
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30 Jan 2012, 20:03 (Ref:3019058) | #581 | ||
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High Speed Steel - very tough and very hard.
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31 Jan 2012, 04:26 (Ref:3019245) | #583 | ||
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hmmm an increase in numbers.. and we're now safely back into double figures
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31 Jan 2012, 05:28 (Ref:3019253) | #584 | |
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Got a few shots of the Next Gen NZV8 at Ruapuna
Full album here: http://imgur.com/a/96V0Y or on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/grangerdesign |
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31 Jan 2012, 05:42 (Ref:3019255) | #585 | ||
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cheers G!
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31 Jan 2012, 05:53 (Ref:3019258) | #586 | |
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Depends what safety point you are referring to, if you are talking about the fuel tanks then the SC is probably safer in a high speed rear end crash. But don't forget in recent times we have only seen one fuel cell explode, then suddenly we need to redesign the car? I think the main reason they moved the tank forward was for weight purposes,after the fitting of the new trans axel. Safety doesn't end with just rear end hits, what happens if a car leaves the track and mounts a barrier puncturing the tank, or runs over debris on the track. There could be a drive line failure and the result is a fire because you have ruptured the fuel tank. Then what do you do, pull to the side of the track and wait for help? The car is on fire the paint is burning off the inside of the floor, the car is full of smoke and fumes. You have two choices, stay in the car and you can't breath or climb out through the flames that are pouring out from under your car? If it was me I would prefer the fire to be contained at the back end of the car, which would be the case with the ST car There's pro's and con's with both concepts. |
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31 Jan 2012, 06:21 (Ref:3019259) | #587 | ||
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From what I inferred from TV3 tonight Angus Fogg is looking to jump to ST (plus I've heard another "star" NZV8 driver is also contemplating making the switch).
If this happens it looks like NZV8/MRX would be a dead duck - thanks MSNZ for probably blowing members $ on MRX design and jigs ........... |
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31 Jan 2012, 06:26 (Ref:3019260) | #588 | ||
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You will find HSS steel in the doors of the ST. There is also Boron Steel, which is an advanced high strength steel, to drill this steel you need a special and expensive drill bit as a normal drill bits will not drill it. |
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31 Jan 2012, 06:31 (Ref:3019262) | #589 | ||
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And in my opinion just as safe. Fuel is inside a bladder inside of tank, tank is concealed under removable panel. |
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31 Jan 2012, 06:35 (Ref:3019263) | #590 | |||
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so was Angus looking at buying a car or will he be filling an empty seat? |
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31 Jan 2012, 06:54 (Ref:3019267) | #591 | ||
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As I said there are pro's and con's. Good for you, I hope it all works out okay for you. |
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31 Jan 2012, 07:02 (Ref:3019268) | #592 | |||
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Unfortunately this would mean the NZV8/MRX will be the losers and MSNZ members will (again) front up by being charged extra on licence fees, entry fees etc for another suspect decision by MSNZ executive who should have stayed out of the commercial world they don't understand. When I was racing the other weekend this NZV8/ST/TMC/MSNZ was a topic of conversation and a number of competitors had the attitude that although it would cost them $$ in the short term it was probably worthwhile to get rid of TMC and get MSNZ back to what they are meant to be doing. |
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31 Jan 2012, 07:04 (Ref:3019270) | #593 | ||
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Worked well until it blew a fuel reg up front and fireballed the car!!! Oh the irony of it all!! |
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31 Jan 2012, 07:15 (Ref:3019273) | #595 | |
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In a enduro will they run a bigger tank? Or a secondary tank to flow to the original?
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31 Jan 2012, 07:21 (Ref:3019274) | #596 | |||
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While Fogg is likely to change camps to Holden ..." |
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31 Jan 2012, 07:38 (Ref:3019276) | #597 | |||
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I suggest you have another look at the picture and see if you can spot what is wrong with your comments |
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31 Jan 2012, 07:45 (Ref:3019278) | #598 | |
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31 Jan 2012, 07:49 (Ref:3019280) | #599 | ||
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As I posted earlier the Fuel tank is not inside the cabin.
The bulkhead extends over it to enclosed it outside the cabin. There 2 removable covers to access fittings in the top. Which will be less risk than currant cars that have fuel and oil lines running through the cabin. So your implications of a fire hazard due to the above scenarios are not valid. |
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31 Jan 2012, 07:51 (Ref:3019282) | #600 | ||
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In our car we have always tried as much as possible to put more weight at the rear of the rear axle, not less. Last edited by Jerico; 31 Jan 2012 at 07:57. Reason: nothing. |
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