Rules Future Rule Changes - Page 24

321Go · 1 Jul 2014, 10:55 (Ref:3428936)

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Originally Posted by 321Go

The standing re-start rule will be at the racing directors (Charlie Whiting) discretion. So not compulsory for every re-start.

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Originally Posted by Paradise City

No source, it ain't happenin' guys.

Since the F1 2015 Sporting Regulations have now been released...

Article 40.14 states: If the clerk of the course considers conditions are unsuitable for a standing restart the message "NO STANDING RESTART" will be shown on the official messaging system. Once the orange lights on the safety car have been extinguished the first car in line behind the safety car may dictate the pace and, if necessary, fall more than ten car lengths behind it.

wnut · 1 Jul 2014, 11:31 (Ref:3428942)

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Originally Posted by 321Go

Since the F1 2015 Sporting Regulations have now been released...

Article 40.14 states: If the clerk of the course considers conditions are unsuitable for a standing restart the message "NO STANDING RESTART" will be shown on the official messaging system. Once the orange lights on the safety car have been extinguished the first car in line behind the safety car may dictate the pace and, if necessary, fall more than ten car lengths behind it.

What so depending on whose leading?
Good, so it is always going to look like the results are being manipulated!
Good look, well done!

321Go · 1 Jul 2014, 14:27 (Ref:3429035)

Bernie wants three car teams.

Bernie Ecclestone: "I'm ready for a Formula 1 with eight teams with three cars each. Is it better to have a third Ferrari or a Caterham?"

wolfhound · 1 Jul 2014, 14:28 (Ref:3429036)

I see Bernie is back on his 3 cars per team hobby horse again. Is he not in Germany having a chat in court today?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114744

Articus · 2 Jul 2014, 01:31 (Ref:3429257)

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Originally Posted by 321Go

Bernie wants three car teams.

Bernie Ecclestone: "I'm ready for a Formula 1 with eight teams with three cars each. Is it better to have a third Ferrari or a Caterham?"

No wonder F1 has been shuffled into such chaos. He doesn't watch the racing. Ferrari isn't exactly any closer to winning a race this season than Caterham is...

Teretonga · 2 Jul 2014, 02:02 (Ref:3429267)

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Originally Posted by Articus

No wonder F1 has been shuffled into such chaos. He doesn't watch the racing. Ferrari isn't exactly any closer to winning a race this season than Caterham is...

If that's his question we should inundate him with a reply:

"It's better to have a Caterham"

miatanut · 2 Jul 2014, 03:49 (Ref:3429294)

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Originally Posted by wnut

Well I hate wings and aero downforce generating devices!

So join the queue!

Oh and KERS and batteries - what a load of ...

Oh and ....

Agreed on the wings, but they should be allowed but not mandated KERS & batteries. Or flywheels. Or compressed air. Or whatever else somebody dreams up as an energy recovery system.

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Here's a Lotus 49B for you.

The Eagle Weslake was better looking!

Back in the day when versions of the same car could compete in F1, and compete at Indy too!

**bjohnsonsmith** · 2 Jul 2014, 09:58 (Ref:3429408)

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Originally Posted by miatanut

The Eagle Weslake was better looking!

Back in the day when versions of the same car could compete in F1, and compete at Indy too!

It was a beautiful looking car.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 2 Jul 2014, 10:01 (Ref:3429409)

Drivers don't want standing restarts acoording to Ricciardo.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114752

wolfhound · 2 Jul 2014, 13:27 (Ref:3429494)

It seems like most of the ideas to come out of the stratagy group have been ill thought out or were totally useless. Most of the ones proposed were chucked out by the F1 commission at last weeks meeting. I think there might have been one or two that were good but the rest....... the less said the better.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 8 Jul 2014, 17:25 (Ref:3431857)

FRICS could be banned by this year's German GP.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881

S griffin · 8 Jul 2014, 17:51 (Ref:3431867)

Goodbye innovation

Teretonga · 8 Jul 2014, 18:10 (Ref:3431873)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

FRICS could be banned by this year's German GP.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114881

The question is why?
It's a sure sign of either desperation, knee jerk decision making or inept planning to start playing with regulations mid season.

Safety issues are justified but when ruling bodies start messing with suspension rules halfway through the year they are one of the above or manipulating the championship.

The tyre issue last year resulted in a change that advantaged RBR and disadvantaged others. Now we have this. Tyres affected safety but FRICS?

wolfhound · 8 Jul 2014, 18:32 (Ref:3431881)

As Mercedes are reputed to have the best FRICS system I wonder could such a ban have an effect on the competitive order. I suspect RB might also have a good FRICS system as they have a car that has very good aero.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 9 Jul 2014, 12:45 (Ref:3432146)

This is an informative article regarding the very likely FRIC ban.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114890

wolfhound · 10 Jul 2014, 18:51 (Ref:3432566)

If you thought that the use of titanium skid blocks was broght in to please spectators you might be wrong.
It appears there may be another reason. Some teams run there cars with a large rake angle where the front is very low to the ground which means they need skid blocks. These skid blocks are made from a speical hard wearing material and prevents the underfloor plank being worn away. If there is more than a specified amount of wear then the car will be disqualified. Titanium is a softer metal that will ear away relatively quickly and also produce a shower of sparks.
As a result of the change to titanium teams will nolonger be able to run the front of the car so close to the ground thereby reducing their aero performance.

Now who are the clever ones?

http://plus.autosport.com/premium/fe...358.1403130801

wnut · 11 Jul 2014, 11:00 (Ref:3432762)

Will be interesting to see if anything comes of this:

http://www.pitpass.com/51910/We-Need-To-Listen-To-Luca

Can't do any worse than the damage the rule change numptys are doing to F1 at present!

Actual flat out racing for 2 hrs would be a good start!

MagVanisher · 11 Jul 2014, 12:56 (Ref:3432799)

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Originally Posted by wnut

Actual flat out racing for 2 hrs would be a good start!

Nah, 2 hours is long so I proposed to have 90 minutes on raceday and 30 minutes for ceremonies and press conferences.

wnut · 12 Jul 2014, 01:33 (Ref:3433051)

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Originally Posted by MagVanisher

Nah, 2 hours is long so I proposed to have 90 minutes on raceday and 30 minutes for ceremonies and press conferences.

Are you sure you want to go as long as 90 minutes?

JeremySmith · 12 Jul 2014, 14:15 (Ref:3433172)

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Originally Posted by wnut

Will be interesting to see if anything comes of this:

http://www.pitpass.com/51910/We-Need-To-Listen-To-Luca

Can't do any worse than the damage the rule change numptys are doing to F1 at present!

Actual flat out racing for 2 hrs would be a good start!

It's a good article and worth paying attention too..

wnut · 15 Jul 2014, 02:14 (Ref:3433990)

Luca still on his (our?) mission:

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns28467.html

Tucky · 15 Jul 2014, 21:08 (Ref:3434244)

I've only just read the pitpass article and one thing that stuck out for me was Bernie's resistance to social media. This is a quick fix and quite frankly it's ridiculous they haven't cottoned on already. Watching races (or parts of) on Youtube could really build the youth market audience. The only way I can watch a race that's after 1985 is if I download it illegally, and even then it's reliant on someone not only recording the race but also going to the effort of uploading it in it's entirety and leaving his computer on for others to upload. All the footage belongs to FOM, but what's the point in having all of it if they aren't going to show it again??? (apart from a couple of reruns on Sky)

**bjohnsonsmith** · 16 Jul 2014, 13:43 (Ref:3434484)

The FIA thinks simplifying F1 rules is unrealsitic.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114978

As for Charlie Whiting's comment, "We are being continually asked to make things clearer, but you can't do that with fewer words unfortunately.", I don't think it has anything to do with fewer words, it's to do with how complex things have become. F1 could do with some simplification.

Pingguest · 16 Jul 2014, 13:55 (Ref:3434487)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

The FIA thinks simplifying F1 rules is unrealsitic.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/114978

As for Charlie Whiting's comment, "We are being continually asked to make things clearer, but you can't do that with fewer words unfortunately.", I don't think it has anything to do with fewer words, it's to do with how complex things have become. F1 could do with some simplification.

Mr Whiting clearly shows a lack of vision. The sport is overregulated and that has indeed nothing to do with words.

Nowadays it is very hard to explain the rules to a casual viewer. Explaining the post-qualifying parc fermé regulation, it exceptions and the tyre regulations alone are very difficult to understand.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 16 Jul 2014, 14:17 (Ref:3434496)

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Originally Posted by Pingguest

Mr Whiting clearly shows a lack of vision. The sport is overregulated and that has indeed nothing to do with words.

Nowadays it is very hard to explain the rules to a casual viewer. Explaining the post-qualifying parc fermé regulation, it exceptions and the tyre regulations alone are very difficult to understand.

The tyre regulations are an excellent example.

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