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So Williams have narrowed it down to Massa, di Resta or Kubica. No offence to Felipe, but I hope they don't play it safe.
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Looking at the list....Kubica it is then? If they do, it will be a good advertising move for Williams as his car will be followed closely..plus I heard somewhere that Rosberg is involved?
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Even if I don't know what issues are going on here with the Williams team, I hope it makes a good choice of the second driver in time
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Heidfeld was more underrated than Kubica overrated. I mean 2007 Kubica had the accident, but he kept the car in the title hunt right to the penultimate race in 2008, despite BMW stupidly ending development after their first win. 2009 the car was bad, so not really a fair comparison
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It's confirmed that from next year, the official entry is as Aston Martin Red Bull Racing.
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FWIW, I think Heidfeld would have been a race winner in a decent car.
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We talk about drivers like Heidfeld, Kubica and Massa and their glory days (notable accomplishments) are from almost a decade ago. If you focus on just Kubica and Massa, they both had brushes with greatness (including Massa almost being WDC) and then accidents that put their careers into question.
Massa was able to recover (however I believe it did impact his ability for awhile) and for Kubica the injury was generally considered career ending for quite a long time. While Massa is only a handful of years older than Kubica at this point we are expecting Massa's retirement as being imminent (especially given he actually did retire!). So if Kubia was driving today people would be wondering the same thing. When will Kubica retire? Who would be older than Kubica (assuming Massa retires to free up the seat at Williams)... * Kimi at 37 who is WDC and even at that some here clammer for his retirement. * Fernando at 36 who is multiple WDC and again, many wonder if he is ready to quit. * Lewis at 32 (roughly same age) who is multiple WDC So if Kubica was still driving today, I suspect that unless he was a previous WDC, his F1 career would be in it's twilight as well. Could anyone really restart an F1 career at this point purely based upon the potential that was shown many years ago? If had been successful in other top level racing during that gap then maybe, but while I don't follow WRC, he seems to have been just "OK" recently (granted, luck can be a big factor in Rally). But he is just a big question mark IMHO. I would love to see the Cinderella story for a Kubica return, but it would have to be a big risks for anyone to really consider it. Richard |
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Would it be that much more of a risk over, say, di Resta?
I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that Kubica had more potential than di Resta when they entered F1. Also, you can bet Williams will write a contract clause that deals with the issue of what happens if it turns out Kubica can't actually compete properly due to his arm. Therefore, they'd be able to swap him for di Resta, or whoever else. |
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Exactly, being Williams reserve with Kubica signed might work out rather well. Ditto McLaren if Alonso re-signs then has another hissy fit
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If you believe this, 2018 might be a bad year for the mad russian... http://www.speedcafe.com/2017/09/26/...at-toro-rosso/
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I hope RBR do Aston Martin proud next season, what a great way to promote the brand
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I find it somewhat puzzling that Aston Martin has the finances available since their own financial situation appears less than rosy. I do not pretend to know all the ins and outs but historically they have been on shaky ground for some considerable time. I did try researching their current investors but it gets a little grey in places for anyone who is not well versed in company structuring. My understanding is that the company is owned by an Italian consortium but there also appears to be some investment from Mercedes. Anyone throw any light on it?
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