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They also don't do 2min/lap. They had two very, very quick pitstops timed well and managed to work their way back. If the point you are trying to make here is that they benefitted from a wave by, then why not just say that? What you need to understand is that the race strategy is fluid, not fixed, and it encompasses everything from traffic, to brake changes. It's not as simple as, oh, we got a wave by...now we can push... |
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The theoretical 2:00/lap is appropriate: #4 Corvette FL was 2:00.216. Class FL was the #97 AM at 1:59.780.
As the theoretical problem is stated, my math is correct. Some other car(s) had to lose 4-odd minutes more somehow. |
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2.5hrs is basically three stints. 50-55 minutes is maximum distance on a tank of fuel. If you pit off sequence of the lead groups, get a few yellows, double or triple stint tires and drivers...you can make that time up. Short of watching the last few hours, I can't explain further how they made the time back....I still have no idea what point you are trying to make here... |
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The lap-down wave-by was Not in the rules in ALMS. Not in the Rules--Not In Effect. Wasn't there.
If in some way you are trying to say otherwise ... well, speech is free. I was at the race but I don't recall how Corvette made up that time when it did. I am sure if your point is really to understand that aspect of the race and not just debate, that you can find lap charts, maybe see if you can dig up Daily Sports Car's hourly coverage ... (I might have copies of the pdfs of the ALMS pit notes ... go to the Pit Notes site and see if they do ?) In fact, if your passion to learn is as great as it seems to be, I am sure you will google the race and read every published English-language race report to see if anyone said anything relevant. I have done the same when I wondered "What happened to that car?" after a race, and sometimes I find a brief note in some odd article from partway through a race which sheds light. I am eager to hear what you come up with. here, however, people are discussing specifically the Lap-Down Wave-By, which was a rule in Rolex and is now a rule in TUSC. It was never part of ALMS and thus did not affect the 2013 Sebring 12 Hours. On a hopefully unrelated note: There is Zero need to resurrect he ALMS/Rolex argument. If the LDWB had been used in ALMS I would have protested it then. And there were several penalty calls made in ALMS, several managerial decisions ... shoot, I spent years on the ALMSfans site tearing the series up because it wouldn't priomote, wouldn't improve its TV production ... But All That Is Over. Regardless of what Corvette did or didn't do at Sebring in the ALMS years, I want the LDWB Not to be in the rulebook come Sebring 2015. Anyway, eager to see what you come up with on that Corvette thing. EDIT:: http://pitnotes.org/tusc.php I checked and they at least have headings for every ALMS year back to the start, so if you peruse the pit notes for that stretch of the 2013 12 Hours you might get some good info. Last edited by Maelochs; 1 Apr 2014 at 02:22. |
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One of my press contacts told me IMSA sent a message asking to give them a break. That's right, instead of trying to fix the product let's try to censor the coverage we get.
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The difference between the two types of wave-by have been explained several times in great detail. No need to continue discussing this ...for me at least. I am sure I am on everyone's last nerve on this topic.
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1 Apr 2014, 20:12 (Ref:3387550) | #6261 | |
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Johnny D just tweeted no bombshell announcement today. So I guess we can back off the withdraw speculation for now.
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Yep, it was always interesting when a GTC car was at the head of the queue for a restart.
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I don't see where they went down two laps, only 1 lap. And there were also 2 caution periods, starting at @3h45m (4laps) and @5h30m (6laps) So, looking at the data...I'm only focusing on the 4, 91, and 62, as they were the ones battling for lead at this point:
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If you volunteer to take the seat in a dunking booth, you should not be surprised to get wet. Funny, you had to wonder how the GA and ALMS teams would get along in the paddock at first, but they seem to have united in their dislike with the front office/control tower. |
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When PWC gets the most press and coverage at Long Beach, maybe Indycar and IMSA will notice? Doubt it but a TUSK news blackout might get their attention. |
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Moved from the Schedule Thread. To make sure MoMedic is in the appropriate place to make a full comment.
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New IMSA procedures released.
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MWM is reporting that IMSA has released a press release about changes being made because of the blowback from the first two rounds.
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