TCR International Series - Page 27

Mark0994 · 29 Oct 2015, 19:56 (Ref:3586476)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Still waiting on the coverage to be on Youtube but saw some short clips. The track looks like F1 level. Very impressive.

Agree nice track. But GT Asia races was better in my opinion.

Mies7337 · 2 Nov 2015, 16:07 (Ref:3587517)

The TCR rules are really the future, that's clear to me. What are the the manufacturers for next year? Surely Honda, Seat, VW, Opel, Subaru, Ford, and hopefully Alfa, but how many more will there be? It really looks like TCR races can just be as exciting as the early WTCC days!!

Mark0994 · 2 Nov 2015, 17:25 (Ref:3587546)

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Originally Posted by Mies7337

The TCR rules are really the future, that's clear to me. What are the the manufacturers for next year? Surely Honda, Seat, VW, Opel, Subaru, Ford, and hopefully Alfa, but how many more will there be? It really looks like TCR races can just be as exciting as the early WTCC days!!

Maybe there will be Peugeot and Renault. But i would like to see BMW and Jaguar.

Racing Harz · 2 Nov 2015, 18:06 (Ref:3587555)

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Originally Posted by Mark0994

Maybe there will be Peugeot and Renault. But i would like to see BMW and Jaguar.

What? The TCR is for Cars like the VW Golf and not a Jaguar.

Mark0994 · 2 Nov 2015, 18:22 (Ref:3587561)

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Originally Posted by Racing Harz

What? The TCR is for Cars like the VW Golf and not a Jaguar.

Well if there was SEAT Leon vs BMW 320si in old days of WTCC i think there's nothing wrong in Subaru WRX STi vs Jaguar XE. Both have 2.0 engine similar horsepower and prices are similar. Both are around 40.000 Euros. It would be nice if some car in this championship have RWD.

Mark0994 · 7 Nov 2015, 11:29 (Ref:3588776)

James Nash will drive Ford Focus for Proteam/FRD in Macau
http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...-macau-finale/

Go_For_Pole · 7 Nov 2015, 16:32 (Ref:3588805)

The question with this particular car is not who is driving but whether it will ever run cleanly

**FIRE** · 7 Nov 2015, 17:19 (Ref:3588811)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

The question with this particular car is not who is driving but whether it will ever run cleanly

Yep

I have not really faith this project is going to have success. I think future of TCR is factory initiated projects.

Mark0994 · 7 Nov 2015, 19:02 (Ref:3588831)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

I think future of TCR is factory initiated projects.

Agree on that.

Bramzel · 7 Nov 2015, 20:21 (Ref:3588852)

I actually think that Focus is finally getting somewhere now FRD is working on it. Slowly it gets faster and more reliable.

Go_For_Pole · 8 Nov 2015, 09:40 (Ref:3589013)

Maybe it will but even if they succeed can they provide a global customer program? I doubt.

Speed-King · 9 Nov 2015, 18:56 (Ref:3589296)

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...start-of-2016/

Wow... TCR really taking off. And a license to print money for JAS.

Go_For_Pole · 9 Nov 2015, 20:07 (Ref:3589309)

Which makes me wonder why the likes of MSport hasn't picked up a Ford project

**FIRE** · 10 Nov 2015, 18:10 (Ref:3589533)

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Originally Posted by Go_For_Pole

Which makes me wonder why the likes of MSport hasn't picked up a Ford project

Or RML, 888, Reiter

**FIRE** · 10 Nov 2015, 18:12 (Ref:3589535)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

http://www.touringcartimes.com/2015/...start-of-2016/

Wow... TCR really taking off. And a license to print money for JAS.

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will be available to customers at the price of 104,000 EUR, with 20 cars already in build.

So the max price of €100k isn't really the max price? I don't like that.

Go_For_Pole · 10 Nov 2015, 19:30 (Ref:3589553)

Indeed :-(

Bramzel · 10 Nov 2015, 19:52 (Ref:3589557)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Or RML, 888, Reiter

Reiter already announced that they aren't interested in developing cars for TCR, but that they were keeping an eye on the championship and perhaps could enter a team in the future.

NaBUru38 · 10 Nov 2015, 20:04 (Ref:3589559)

TCR seems a nice idea for national championships.

Speed-King · 10 Nov 2015, 20:05 (Ref:3589560)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Reiter already announced that they aren't interested in developing cars for TCR, but that they were keeping an eye on the championship and perhaps could enter a team in the future.

Really can't understand that - with the Lamborghini GT3 program done and dusted they really don't have any big projects anymore. A handful of GT4-KTMs will not keep the shop open for long.

**FIRE** · 10 Nov 2015, 20:43 (Ref:3589569)

Lambo GT3 done and dusted?

Speed-King · 10 Nov 2015, 21:12 (Ref:3589574)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Lambo GT3 done and dusted?

The Huracan is done in-house, so Reiter don't have anything to do with that. They still supply the legacy Gallardos with spares, but they're not gonna sell any new cars.

**FIRE** · 11 Nov 2015, 17:53 (Ref:3589768)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

The Huracan is done in-house, so Reiter don't have anything to do with that. They still supply the legacy Gallardos with spares, but they're not gonna sell any new cars.

Correct me if I am wrong but this year Reiter introduced an updated version of the Gallardo. So next 2 or 3 years they are still selling new cars. Of course the factory project is a big rival and will probably mean no Reiter Lambo after the Gallardo.

Speed-King · 11 Nov 2015, 19:15 (Ref:3589785)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Correct me if I am wrong but this year Reiter introduced an updated version of the Gallardo. So next 2 or 3 years they are still selling new cars. Of course the factory project is a big rival and will probably mean no Reiter Lambo after the Gallardo.

I think they've sold 3 or 4 of the final evolution version of that car so far (not counting the ones they race themselves).... that's a far cry from when they were cranking out a dozen or more over a winter.

Or from the 70(!) orders for Opel Astras that Kiesling/Opel have received so far, for that matter.

If you are in the business of building customer racing cars and not doing a TCR right now, you're doing it wrong. There are only so many models that fit the category and some of them will be unavailable because they are done in-house, so if you wanna get a piece of that market you better do it now.

**FIRE** · 11 Nov 2015, 19:34 (Ref:3589788)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

I think they've sold 3 or 4 of the final evolution version of that car so far (not counting the ones they race themselves).... that's a far cry from when they were cranking out a dozen or more over a winter.

Or from the 70(!) orders for Opel Astras that Kiesling/Opel have received so far, for that matter.

If you are in the business of building customer racing cars and not doing a TCR right now, you're doing it wrong. There are only so many models that fit the category and some of them will be unavailable because they are done in-house, so if you wanna get a piece of that market you better do it now.

Don't get me wrong. If I was Reiter or a comparable company I would join TCR as fast as possible. Currently there are still a lot of brands "available". I mean if we return to GT3 racing, for Reiter there's no new brand to develop. The Camaro isn't really a serious car. So after the current Gallardo normally Reiter is forced to leave the GT3 market.

Bramzel · 12 Nov 2015, 07:53 (Ref:3589887)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

There are only so many models that fit the category and some of them will be unavailable because they are done in-house, so if you wanna get a piece of that market you better do it now.

I agree with everything you say, except for this quoted bit. The C-segment TCR is aiming at is one of the biggest segments out there, there will always be plenty of models available. And if the big brands run out there are plenty of smaller brands available.

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