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25 Mar 2016, 13:20 (Ref:3627084) | #6826 | ||
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I wouldn't read too much into these times. Both Audi and Toyota are testing here after the Prologue, and so they may not want to reveal too much. Furthermore we still have 4 more sessions
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25 Mar 2016, 13:48 (Ref:3627097) | #6827 | ||
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One thing that I noticed is that because Porsche had to ditch the "wheel arch" winglets, they're running very tall gurney flaps on the TE of the engine cover.
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25 Mar 2016, 14:12 (Ref:3627109) | #6829 | |
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i think their game is to try and push audi and toyota to show some of their cards early on, so they know where they stand compared to the new cars pace-wise, since the new, aggresively-designed cars should theoretically have the better pace, but the more fragile reliability.
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25 Mar 2016, 14:44 (Ref:3627119) | #6830 | ||
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that's what i was thinking ,,too..toyota is testing the low downforce package for the first time, so i dont think they are pushing hard ,,,
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25 Mar 2016, 19:49 (Ref:3627257) | #6832 | ||
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Porsche is in the (1.37,487) Session III
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25 Mar 2016, 20:16 (Ref:3627271) | #6833 | ||
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Porsche looking good
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25 Mar 2016, 20:36 (Ref:3627281) | #6834 | ||
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As Fritz Enzinger said: It's too early to judge performance.
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25 Mar 2016, 20:37 (Ref:3627282) | #6835 | ||
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If this is intentional, which I think it is, it is the best livery trick since the old Champion Audis and the Panoz Hybrid (Sparky) at Le Mans. |
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25 Mar 2016, 20:45 (Ref:3627285) | #6836 | ||
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25 Mar 2016, 23:11 (Ref:3627340) | #6837 | ||
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It might be just me but looking at the photos of the first day of running and every time I see the 919's head on I think its a 2011 R18
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26 Mar 2016, 00:10 (Ref:3627351) | #6838 | |
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I think the white is supposed to be evocative and agree we are supposed to see that. But I don't buy the "at night" or cameras adjusting exposures to make the rest of the car fade away. And optimize for 1/3 of a race when visibility is poor (even if Le Mans). Makes no sense.
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26 Mar 2016, 04:02 (Ref:3627377) | #6839 | |
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I think the cars have been designed for optimal performance and the look of the cars has suffered. They are really strange looking at some angles and have lost that gracefulness and sleekness. With the 2016 liveries, I think the cars can regain some of the beauty of lines that have been lost with the blunt fenders and the BHF and BHHs. When the cars are the stars, you've got to keep them looking as good as possible.
I still think the side fins (gills) on the Porsche are one of my favorite design elements in the field. |
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28 Mar 2016, 09:32 (Ref:3627981) | #6840 | ||
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After reading on the Toyota and Audi threads what basically boiled down to claiming that both Audi and Toyota were really out for an early spring stroll, whilst Porsche was doing its very best to set the fastest time, I thought I would try and inject some sensible (I hope) counter points.
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28 Mar 2016, 09:39 (Ref:3627983) | #6841 | ||
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Porsche texting in spa this week? Neel Jani posted a picture on Twitter.
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28 Mar 2016, 17:23 (Ref:3628097) | #6846 | ||
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They testing tomorrow and Wednesday.
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29 Mar 2016, 05:20 (Ref:3628271) | #6847 | |
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Spyderman, where did you read about the Toyota guys sandbagging? I haven't seen anyone claim that. I have seen people say that Sarrazin set their best lap and he was or is their slowest driver. Not sure what to say about Audi. Imo they seem to have a few issues but will probably get over them. Porsche is still the car to beat until someone beats them.
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29 Mar 2016, 05:37 (Ref:3628274) | #6848 | ||
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FIA WEC actually said it ,,, that toyota was fast in must sectors and then dropped out the lap....i read Spyders comment before ,, but went to the Fia wec web , to check for new and read it there
this is what the FIA WEC article says toyota will be greatly encouraged by the performance of the TS050 HYBRID. The car set a succession of fastest sector times during the two days, but then chose not to complete the laps. The intrigue about just how much pace the Japanese marque has with its new car is the talk of the WEC paddock Article here http://www.fiawec.com/en/news/prolog...-pro_3832.html |
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Again - Having looked very closely at the sector times, there is no doubt what-so-ever that Toyota has improved immensely. They had the furthest road to travel. They were very far behind last year, and also had to recover the 3-4 seconds lost due to fuel restriction. They have certainly done that, and deserve all the praise in the world. However, to go from there to insinuate that they were generally taking a stroll in the park (hyperbole being used to illustrate a point) during the prologue is silly. All competitors wanted to see where they stood in relation to the competition. That issue was not just the prerogative for Porsche. Furthermore - I have no doubt that both Toyota and Audi will resolve what ever technical difficulties they are currently having, and will appear at Silverstone much more stable than during the prologue, and they will be strong by Le Mans. It's the nature of development. Observation: I compared last years best sector times (across the 5 sessions) for Porsche with this years times. The high DF package has a tremendous effect in Sector 3 (fast corners) where they improved ~1.1 seconds , but they also lost ~ 1.1 seconds in Sector 2 (mistral). I think it is clear why Porsche chose to test their high(er) DF package:
This week they are testing at Spa. The lower DF package will be used, no doubt. Last edited by Spyderman; 29 Mar 2016 at 05:47. |
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29 Mar 2016, 05:49 (Ref:3628282) | #6850 | ||
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Spyderman can you provide the link to w.e you are referring about Facebook.. thank you..
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