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Well, I guess we'll find out soon enough. The first public test on the 10th could give some insight.
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You and I both know that you are taking some of what I say out of context, or maybe you are misreading my posts. But you were correct, I had forgotten the Besnard crash, so that makes two in the last ten years, the Larkhum was back in 2000. Have you watched footage of the Larkhun crash lately, most interesting! you see him open the door and start climbing out of the car, the rear of the car is totally on fire, yet the fire marshal is able to help him away from the car. Which is exactly what my point is all about, he is able to get out of the car, without stepping into the fire. Because the fire is not coming out from under the centre of the car, it is at the rear of the car and it was contained there long enough for him to get out and away. I don't believe everything I here at press releases, as they vary so much from the truth at times, if you believe everything your hear then you would be a politicians dream. Didn't they say that the Titanic was unsinkable? As I said there were SC people who were not keen on moving the fuel cell initially, so I am not on my own there, but then they could have changed their minds since, people do that. As I stated there are pro's and con's for both the ST and the SC, but I am sure they will both compliment each other, because they are both being manufactured from the same stable. They are both thoroughbreds and will be great racecars, in there own right The fuel cell in the ST is held in a fully welded heavy guage steel box, positioned at the front of the boot, not like the NZV8, which has a light aluminum drop tank at the rear of the boot area. I agree with Mark Petch, with what he had to say about the safety of the ST vs the SC, there are aspects of the ST that he thinks are better. In answer to your comment, referring that it's a wonder they haven't contacted me, well to date they haven't ha-ha. However I can say that I have worked in the field of inspecting and annualising the structual integrity of motor vehicles for the past twent five years, so I do know my way around a car. |
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3 months x 4 weeks per month x 5 working days per week x 8hr working day = 480 man hours. Is that a lot? Or is it 4 months x 4 weeks per month x 7 working days x 16hr working day = 1792 man hours If I know anything in life it is that to prep a racecar PROPERLY takes pretty much the same amount of time irrespective of what it is. Also I know that if all the parts aren't there when you start you can't finish but you can muddle around endlessly with what you have. As a point of interest - what tyres is the MRX thingy running on? |
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LMAO!!! that feels like a bite
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5 Feb 2012, 04:31 (Ref:3021699) | #682 | ||
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Did any NZV8s get tech'ed or have issues with tech inspection at the last round?
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Tanks have a rubber bladder in them which means you have to compromise both the tank and the bladder. In my experience as a fire marshal for over 20 years it's unusual to do this except when the tank is put under extreme compression, leaving the fuel with nowhere to go but out. The best cure for this is distance between the tank and the impact, and moving it furhter within the vehicle, often with another layer of protection, is a common saftey feature. If a car with a tank nearer the centre finds it's damaged sufficiently to leak disastrously by being dragged along a barrier or some of the other scenarios you described, the chances are the fire is not the drivers biggest worry by then. |
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10 Feb 2012, 07:17 (Ref:3023964) | #686 | ||
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hmm what to say..
the MRX car looks decent in the flesh! although the carb engine does look a little out of place. bring on the coyote! Steve Taylor in the ex Orr Commodore? no sign of Bristow the muscle cars sound good! the muscle cars sound real good! |
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10 Feb 2012, 07:27 (Ref:3023965) | #687 | ||
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Be interesting to see how Taylor goes driving that shed. Fitness may let him down.
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11 Feb 2012, 05:46 (Ref:3024427) | #689 | ||
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The Larkhun crash was back in 2000 and as we both know there has been two further rear end crashes last year, as you say there is a common factor, it is a common factor of two. There are two ways to overcome the problem of fire resulting from rear end crashes. One is to move the fuel cell further towards the middle of the car, or secondly you need make the fuel cell box stronger, if you are going to leave it in the rear of the car. The way drivers or people react to accidents is very simple, our minds race and once the accident is over, we first check that everything is working correctly and that we don't have any major pain. As soon as our minds and bodies have over come our first reactions, which is split second stuff, then the drivers biggest fear returns, FIRE, fire is one of the biggest fears drivers have. If you do not agree with me, then I would suggest you look up on the net and read what most of the worlds top drivers, past and present have to say about fire. It is at the top of there list and most fear fire more than they fear the accident itself. |
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Anyone care to shed any light on the illegal cylinder heads found on the Tulloch cars that were swept under the carpet???
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12 Feb 2012, 22:13 (Ref:3025003) | #692 | ||
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For some reason (Dont know why) heads were removed from Simon Evans car and found to be illegal.
Technical committe wrote up a full report about it, the illegality was blatant and could not be argued. Technical committee gave back the head to Tullochs team and forgot to get someone from tullochs team to sign the incident form. Robbo looks at the paperwork and puts it in the bin because the signature is missing. Tech department ask for the head back but it is long gone, evidence not there anymore so signature not required. New heads this round on both Evans and Bargwanas car. All of the above I have heard thru chinese whispers at the track so it may not be 100% but I believe it to be at least 95% true and would happily stand to be corrected? The question I would pose to all the NZV8 compeitiors is why did Bargwana's car have new heads on it at this weekend too? When the seals on the heads were removed to replace his old heads for these new ones, who checked the heads comming off? Both engines built by the same builder, why should one be any different to the other? |
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I quite understand drivers' fear of fire, it is horrifying. The best cure is to do what you can to prevent it occurring, and moving the fuel cell as far as possible from potential impact is the best option, and then firewalling it away from the driver is the next stage. The actual construction of fuel tanks these days is hugely improved over years past and it takes a significant impact to cause a fire. As has been proved this last season, hanging it out the back where it is vulnerable to a rear-end collision allows that impact to happen. Burying it in the middle means it's not going to be hit in the first place. |
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speaking of gripes...
wonder who came up with the bright idea of replacing half the grandstand seating with a Toyota Prado car park? i had on_to_it's words ringing in my ears after seeing that. |
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So.. Even if engines have seals on them they can still be illegal?
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