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View Poll Results: Which driver combination will win the Pirtek Enduro Cup? | |||
#2 Pye/Luff WP HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#3 Russell/Douglas LDM HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#5 Winterbottom/Canto PRA FORD | 0 | 0% | |
#6 Waters/Stanaway PRA FORD | 0 | 0% | |
#7 T.Kelly/Le Brocq NisMo NISSAN | 0 | 0% | |
#8 Percat/Jones BJR HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#9 Reynolds/Youlden Erebus HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#12 Coulthard/D'Alberto DJRTP FORD | 2 | 6.90% | |
#14 Slade/Walsh BJR HOLDEN | 1 | 3.45% | |
#15 R.Kelly/Wall NisMo NISSAN | 0 | 0% | |
#17 McLaughlin/Premat DJRTP FORD | 7 | 24.14% | |
#18 Holdsworth/Reindler CSR HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#19 W.Davison/Webb Tekno HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#21 Blanchard/Hazelwood TBR HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#22 Courtney/Perkins WP HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#23 Caruso/Fiore NisMo NISSAN | 0 | 0% | |
#33 Tander/Golding GRM HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#34 Moffat/Muscat GRM HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#55 Mostert/Owen PRA FORD | 1 | 3.45% | |
#56 Bright/Jacobson PRA FORD | 1 | 3.45% | |
#62 Rullo/A.Davison LDM HOLDEN | 1 | 3.45% | |
#78 de Silvestro/D.Russell NisMo NISSAN | 0 | 0% | |
#88 Whincup/Dumbrell 888 HOLDEN | 7 | 24.14% | |
#97 van Gisbergen/Campbell 888 HOLDEN | 6 | 20.69% | |
#99 Wood/Pither Erebus HOLDEN | 0 | 0% | |
#888 Lowndes/Richards 888 HOLDEN | 3 | 10.34% | |
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14 Jun 2017, 09:16 (Ref:3741122) | #51 | |
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They did a PB celebration last year, do we need another one?
Go back 40 years and 30 years, there was none of the stuff we get these days about "themes" telling us how special the race is, how much tradition there is, how much it means to win it etc... Everyone knew how special the race was and how much it meant to win, and everything was concentrated on how good the race coming up was going to be, not constantly telling us how good all the previous ones were |
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14 Jun 2017, 09:36 (Ref:3741127) | #52 | ||
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14 Jun 2017, 10:25 (Ref:3741135) | #53 | |||
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Bathurst shouldn't need to "create interest". Its Bathurst! Sure celebrate 40 years since the 1-2, but it shouldn't need a theme to do so. |
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14 Jun 2017, 10:27 (Ref:3741139) | #54 | ||
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14 Jun 2017, 11:18 (Ref:3741149) | #55 | ||
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agreed Bathurst doesnt "need" to create interest, But that doesnt mean it cant, I will ask you the same question. does it matter? and another why would you care? No skin of your nose or anyone elses. Seems to be working. Crowds are up |
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14 Jun 2017, 12:11 (Ref:3741165) | #56 | ||
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I'll call you on that - maybe not "themes" but definitely a lot of talk about tradition, how much the race meant to win and plenty of hype and hoopla by the standards of the day.
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14 Jun 2017, 22:05 (Ref:3741448) | #57 | ||
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Myeh, I dont care either way, the Melbourne Cup doesn't need themes, but on the upside, its a good way educate kids about the history of the sport. I've got a son who asked a million questions after the Brock celebration, that's a good thing.
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14 Jun 2017, 22:21 (Ref:3741454) | #58 | |||
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So crowds are up because of the theme? |
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14 Jun 2017, 22:52 (Ref:3741458) | #59 | ||
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Many people like themes for the nostalgia, we like to see car done up in retro paint schemes, or to see old cars or drivers circulate. Or as mayhem said, educate our kids. In the lead up to the event i enjoy watching old videos or you tubes of old races. the bathurst channel on Fox will be showing highlights of old races, that will fantastic. I didnt see anyone complain about it last year does the race need it. No, but does it add to the Hype and experience of the event, absolutely. There is a reason the indy 500 winner drink milk and kiss the pavement. Do we need champagne to celebrate the winner, no but its about traditions. Does it matter to people, like yourself, who dont care about it. Not at all. you get your race. Makes absolutely no difference to those people apart from giving them another opportunity to whinge about Supercars |
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Can you define "those people" that you are categorising me as being part of? |
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15 Jun 2017, 00:20 (Ref:3741467) | #61 | |||
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I don't know why you're so wound up about this as there's no need to be. Why can't we just all get along mate? Themes shouldn't be mandatory for each year but if the organisers think up a relevant theme to do with a certain aspect or people involved in the history of the sport it can be only a good thing. It helps the oldies get all nostalgic and the kids asking questions which helps them learn more about the sport. Everyone has different interests so if it helps one person become a fan then I see it as a win win. Regardless of whether it's Supercars or something else. That's not the point. |
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15 Jun 2017, 00:27 (Ref:3741468) | #62 | ||
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15 Jun 2017, 00:35 (Ref:3741469) | #63 | ||
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I think i did define it in the paragraph you quoted "Does it matter to people, like yourself, who dont care about it" ("it" being themes which we are discussing) Its not a big deal, doesnt affect you in the slightist, Are you just using it as another opportunity to whinge about supercars? |
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My opinion doesn't affect you in any way, yet you feel the need to defend Supercars, as you do with every other opinion that doesn't match yours and/or toe the Supercars line as gospel. Maybe i'm not the one that needs to let go... |
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15 Jun 2017, 03:02 (Ref:3741501) | #65 | ||
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But fair enough, As long as we use the same standard when we talk all forms of motorsport and not just Supercars. |
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15 Jun 2017, 03:17 (Ref:3741508) | #66 | |||
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I have that approach regardless of category in Motorsport, or topic in general. If you think otherwise I suspect you have me confused with someone else. |
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15 Jun 2017, 07:56 (Ref:3741540) | #67 | |||
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15 Jun 2017, 09:33 (Ref:3741552) | #68 | ||
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I think that is because there is now all this empty time in the morning of the race, as the cars have got quicker & more reliable, the race starts later. So instead of more supports racing, we have 45 mins of bullshit before the start.
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15 Jun 2017, 09:48 (Ref:3741556) | #69 | ||
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here is the 1984 pre race tribute to the big bangers and the cover to 1992, which for some reason is promting a 30th theme Last edited by peckstar; 15 Jun 2017 at 10:02. |
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16 Jun 2017, 05:01 (Ref:3742076) | #70 | |
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IIRC, I think that was the 30th anniversary of the running of the race at Bathurst. Not the 30th anniversary of the enduro event as a whole
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16 Jun 2017, 08:28 (Ref:3742117) | #71 | |||
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And Peckstar, recognizing and promoting an anniversary is not the same as promoting with a theme. |
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16 Jun 2017, 08:35 (Ref:3742121) | #72 | ||
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If you say so, matters not one bit, just a term, both are promotion Let me also add that I added a person to my group this week because of the 40 years since the 1-2 Last edited by peckstar; 16 Jun 2017 at 08:40. |
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