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Muñoz and Pigot still have no confirmed ride.
Andretti signs Sato and keeps Marco. World is unfair. http://www.motorsport.com/indycar/ne...r-2017-841740/ https://www.racer.com/indycar/item/1...t-for-andretti |
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Surely there's Japanese drivers other than Sato that Honda can give a chance to? He seems to be getting worse every year. It's frustrating because he's basically a good driver but he can't help making silly mistakes that seem to have increased to multiple times every race.
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I agree with you, he is basically a good driver but his career has been marred by so many crashes, many that seem to be unavoidable. Regarding all the crashes, I find him almost on a par with the ex, late F1 driver Andrea de Cesaris, whose reputation for crashing earned the him the nick name Andrea de Crasheris. I think his inclusion in the team is to push Andretti as the 'Honda' team, in the same way there's that connection between Penske and Chevrolet. |
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The article doesn't say it's signed and sealed yet if you read carefully.
My guess is Munoz to the second Foyt car and Pigot stays in the #20 for road/street courses, moving to the third ECR car for the 500. |
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ECR: If Pigot gets the #20 road/street course deal and moves to the 3rd car for the Indy 500, he might also be in that 3rd car for the GP of Indy because the team usually run that machine there, too, which surely helps the new crew to gel better before the big event at the end of May. So we might see Ed Carpenter get another road course under his belt by running the #20 at the GP of Indy.
RLL: Motorsport websites recently reported that Oriol Servia has got a partial budget and RLL Racing has announced they would like to run him if they can get together a full season budget Oriol is most likely in their 2nd car at the Indy 500 then. Foyt have since signed Conor Daly to the #41. Here's hoping Daly can significantly improve that car's performance with his road/street course skills and the Chevy engine. Munoz might take the offer from Foyt for the #14 or he might follow in his role model Montoya's footsteps and go for the 5th Andretti car at the Indy 500 and GP of Indy. On his debut, he came 2nd in the Indy 500 in that car, and this is the best chance of winning the race which he currently has got. So the question who gets to drive the #14 still might get a surprising answer. |
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Ed Jones at Dale Coyne. Well done Edward!
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1) Simon Pagenaud 2) Will Power 3) Hélio Castroneves 4) Josef Newgarden Carpenter 5) JR Hildebrand 6) Ed Carpenter/Spencer Pigot (?) Rahal Letterman Lanigan 7) Graham Rahal Ganassi 8) Scott Dixon 9) Tony Kanaan 10) Charlie Kimball 11) Max Chilton (?) Andretti 12) Alexander Rossi 13) Ryan Hunter-Reay 14) Marco Andretti 15) Takuma Sato Schmidt Peterson 16) James Hinchcliffe 17) Mikhail Aleshin KVSH/Carlin 18) RC Enerson? Foyt 19) Carlos Munoz (?) 20) Conor Daly (?) Dale Coyne 21) Sébastien Bourdais 22) Ed Jones Indy only 23) Juan-Pablo Montoya (Penske) |
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Awesome if they can pull it off.
http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/13...car-for-servia I love Servia however would maybe prefer someone like a young and up coming Sage Karam rather than Servia. |
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That Sato, if Andretti pulls it... waste of a seat, good seat. If Japanese driver is needed Honda sent two to European series... Nirei Fukuzumi and Nobu....... Matsushita, and the latter should fit well in IndyCar ;-). But honestly, enough's enough, NASCAR, ARCA round the corner and NSX in IMSA. Great stuff with Jones, and still waiting for news from Merc and Rosenqvist that will not renew, ICS really needs raw talent, Rosenqvist natural born racer.
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Rahal has been very vocal on having an experienced driver in the second car. He ran Servia part-time 2 years ago.
Pigot's best opportunity is with ECR extending his deal in the #20. The silly season has been pretty quick compared to previous years, there are only 3.75 seats left (Vasser is supposedly continuing without Kalkhoven, the Ganassi and Andretti fourth cars, and the 11 other races alongside Ed Carpenter in his second car). |
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He's reliable, cheap and has a mechnical engineering degree, along with vast experience driving many different cars... so he can set up and develop cars better than a rookie can. That's not to say I agree with Bobby Rahal's reasoning, but that's his interest in Servia. He's been consistent on that for more than 2 years.
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As for Penske, well when 3 of your guys finish 1-2-3 you're going to drop the one who didn't finish 4th, which was Montoya. He's taken Newgarden, which is a big step towards lowering the average age at the team. Rossi has been retained by Andretti. Munoz and Daly are at Foyt, so he has 2 young drivers now. Ed Jones got a full-season seat (he is the 17th Indy Lights driver to get at least 1 Indycar start since the MRTI began in 2010). Personally I would agree on replacing Kanaan, but then Chip will point to Karam and Chilton as examples of why that isn't necessarily an improvement. We'll see what happens with the #8, I have a feeling Chilton won't be back. |
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RLL obviously have their reasons for signing Servia and driver signings involve money, bringing new sponsors, something RLL will need if they are going to run a two car team full season. |
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Servia doesn't have any money, why do you think he isn't full-time? He hasn't been signed yet because RLL doesn't have the sponsors in place. Unless you think Penske had Servia fill in for Power because he brought money? Or Andretti? Those were fully funded cars at the time. |
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A 2nd Rahal car is about improving the prospects of Graham - nothing more. For me, I would just prefer it to go to Karam. I think Indycar has done a good job of promoting talent in the last couple of seasons - especially US talent with Newgarden, Daly, Rossi and now JR So does Indycar. |
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Whether Servia is full time or part time, it's going to require money to run a second car. If he hasn't been signed because the sponsors aren't in place that would make sense. It's a two way street. Money is tight these days, so no team is going to sign a driver unless the driver and team have a financial package that's mutually beneficial. |
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If a 2nd Rahal car is about improving the prospects of Graham Rahal, then I would have thought that would be financial and allow the team to run on a bigger budget, which they will need anyway if they are going to run a second car. Of course IndyCar does, it's owned and run by the IRL. |
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Have you never heard about 1 car teams talk of how 2 car teams are important as they improve the level of data gained, more efficient in testing & practice and improve performance quicker than 1 car teams?Hence the keeness for Bobby Rahal to add a 2nd car to RLL Aero development maybe frozen however car set up isn't - this is where Servia with his experience and knowledge would help RLL and Graham. No it isn't clear if its part time or full time - it could be neither. The announcement spelled that out loud itself. Quote:
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With regard to set ups, they are a highly individual thing. Drivers will have different set ups from each other. I'm beginning to think Servia's inclusion, that's if it goes ahead, might have something more to do with the 2018 car. I'm not too sure when the teams take delivery of it but that's where someone like Servia's experience will come into its own, when it comes to evaluating it. The IRL owns IndyCar, we've been over this before. Indy Racing League, LLC, is a subsidiary of Hulman & Company, who also own IMS. |
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We have - hence the reason I dont understand why you persist with the IRL language on a forum, especially as a moderator. Indycar and IMS dont use the IRL brand or language in its comms - not sure why you do. |
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