The 4x4 Rant Thread - Pulled From the £1.30 M25 Toll Thread - Page 3

**Craig** · 22 Oct 2006, 13:35 (Ref:1744974)

Well you didn't say it was behind you..! In any case why would you need to see 'through' them if they're behind you?

Hey ho, whatever.

**Peter Mallett** · 22 Oct 2006, 13:35 (Ref:1744975)

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Originally Posted by ensign14

How in the name of **** can I keep my distance from a car that's BEHIND me????? Drive at freaking 100+????

Perhaps Craig was referencing your point about seeing through these vehicles?

ensign14 · 22 Oct 2006, 14:20 (Ref:1744998)

Doesn't matter how far you are behind them - you can't look several cars ahead if there's a 4x4. At least with vans they're usually doing 80 or so and lorries are limited at 56 so any problem is nugatory...and they're not usually in the outside lane...

**Craig** · 22 Oct 2006, 14:36 (Ref:1745006)

Ah, so they are back in front of you again?

Perhaps you should drop back a little and leave a little more space if you can't see 'through' them?

blackx · 22 Oct 2006, 14:45 (Ref:1745009)

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Originally Posted by ensign14

How in the name of **** can I keep my distance from a car that's BEHIND me????? Drive at freaking 100+????

Slow down to the legal limit of 70mph and the offending vehicle will soon be past you and waaaaaaaay up the road....

ensign14 · 22 Oct 2006, 15:00 (Ref:1745028)

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Originally Posted by Craig

Ah, so they are back in front of you again?

Perhaps you should drop back a little and leave a little more space if you can't see 'through' them?

If they're behind me they dazzle me...if they're ahead they obstruct the road...if they're doing 70 they're around me for ages...

blackx · 22 Oct 2006, 15:09 (Ref:1745043)

There's just no pleasing some folk eh.....

ensign14 · 22 Oct 2006, 15:18 (Ref:1745051)

All they need to do is drive a proper car.

blackx · 22 Oct 2006, 15:29 (Ref:1745058)

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Originally Posted by ensign14

All they need to do is drive a proper car.

And why is a 4x4 NOT a proper car..

Please give us the benefit of your infinate wisdom...

**Craig** · 22 Oct 2006, 15:37 (Ref:1745064)

Sounds like ensign has an irrational dislike of 4x4s. Could it be that we have Tony Blair posting on this site?

ensign14 · 22 Oct 2006, 16:04 (Ref:1745085)

My dislike of 4x4 is very rational. The vast, vast majority are not used the way they are meant to be used. If you need a towing vehicle or offroad a lot, great; if you need to drop Tarquin and Isolde directly outside the school gate on a road that's 6' wide then you should be forced to drive an Isetta.

And if you're going to drive them at night, sort the bloody lights out. Or risk them being shot out by an irate armed ensign.

**Peter Mallett** · 22 Oct 2006, 16:30 (Ref:1745098)

Right so apart from the generalised attack on an ordinary run of the mill vehicle you now suggest we give up our freedon of choice.

Muppet or Tony blair? Possibly both.

blackx · 22 Oct 2006, 18:57 (Ref:1745259)

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Originally Posted by ensign14

And if you're going to drive them at night, sort the bloody lights out. Or risk them being shot out by an irate armed ensign.

My lights are set perfectly for my vehicle to pass an MOT
The fact they may dazzle you is simply because you insist on driving dinky little vehicles that are sooooooooooooooooooooooo low down they are almost inconsequential......

ensign14 · 22 Oct 2006, 19:22 (Ref:1745305)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Right so apart from the generalised attack on an ordinary run of the mill vehicle you now suggest we give up our freedon of choice.

No, just suggesting that people who are not capable of driving a type of vehicle be forced to drive something they can handle.

**Craig** · 22 Oct 2006, 19:48 (Ref:1745354)

Are you talking about your (in)ability to drive at a sensible distance? I am confused?

Suze · 22 Oct 2006, 19:56 (Ref:1745367)

This week's battle between the 4x4 and micra in the local car park was won by the micra. The offence to be hooted at constantly? Nicking the parking space the other woman wanted. Ah well!

And for once I had even parked well....!!

T0MAT01 · 22 Oct 2006, 20:08 (Ref:1745383)

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Originally Posted by Suze

And for once I had even parked well....!!

Let's hear it for Suze then, hip hip....

Knowlesy · 22 Oct 2006, 20:50 (Ref:1745428)

I bet that made up for the unfortunate decision to drive a Micra.

*runs and hides*

Suze · 22 Oct 2006, 21:01 (Ref:1745451)

Not the best is it, but don't worry, car will be changed soon! Very soon...was all I could afford when I bought it in July and lowish mileage and best I'd found at that point, was fed up of looking at cars!

Always wanted something German!

Al Weyman · 22 Oct 2006, 21:03 (Ref:1745454)

Well I have just towed a hundred miles back from Donington in my Chevy Blazer 4 x 4 (I prefer to call it an SUV) in awful conditions towing a ruddy great tri-axle Brian James trailer with a ruddy great big Camaro on the back of that. At the track I put the seats down and slept comfortably in the back and did the return journey for about 30 quid (autogas). Because of the weight of the vehicle by virtue of being a 4 x 4 its rated to tow 3800kgs and I feel very safe and stable towing with it. I love the vehicle and it doubles up as comfortable and economical everyday transport.

ensign14 · 22 Oct 2006, 21:24 (Ref:1745483)

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Originally Posted by Craig

Are you talking about your (in)ability to drive at a sensible distance? I am confused?

No, about the lack of ability of many people who drive 4x4s. The ones who drive them down roads unsuited for big vehicles because of the narrowness of the road. The ones who don't know how to get their lights adjusted so they do not dazzle traffic in front. You have pass a test to have an HGV licence, you ought to have to do the same either to have the right to tow or to drive a van-sized car.

Al Weyman · 22 Oct 2006, 21:44 (Ref:1745516)

Most of these type of vehicles you can simply adjust the beams from within the car to comensate for when you are towing so its not the vehicles fault just the muppet driving them.

ensign14 · 22 Oct 2006, 21:56 (Ref:1745534)

True. But if you cube their 4x4s they can't drive them. Better to cube the drivers, but given that our quisling police force won't let me bazooka middle lane hoggers I doubt that that would be acceptable.

Cougar · 23 Oct 2006, 07:39 (Ref:1745801)

Hmmmm my parents own and use a total of 4 4x4's. Glad you people don't know where they live...

Al Weyman · 23 Oct 2006, 09:49 (Ref:1745924)

Also I'm a big fella not getting any younger and the old joints start playing up a bit and my previous car was an Omega and I found it so much easier to get in and out of the 4x4 and somehow it feels right, big guy, big car I would look bloody ridiculous in a Smart for example if I could even get in one of the horrible things :-)

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