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Despite the perception, the chassis are not all the same. Only the cabin area is identical on all cars. The bar work rearward of the 'parcel shelf' is free, provided the axle is located in a specific place in space, as well as suspension pickup points.
The same ahead of the firewall except that there is some freedom with the suspension pickup points. Did you notice that GRM didn't simply re-skin their Commodores? I think Volvo engine could be an advantage, assuming they are going to be doing more development work within the framework of the rules. From a distance, the Volvo seems to have a very small frontal area compared to the other cars, an important consideration in aerodynamics. |
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Why should Volvo have an advantage when everyone else has had to earn their way to the top? Why not give Nissan and Erebus a mild parity adjustment (again for Nissan) so that they are racing at the front? They have earned their stripes, unlike Volvo. Now that would make the racing interesting...and fair. |
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Because you can't apply parity to a team, only the model.
I wonder if Nissan on behalf of the Kelly's, has applied to the board to use a flat plane crank? |
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You can't penalise all Holden teams on the back of one team doing the dominating.
The formula is designed (in theory anyway) to make the cars even, not the teams (you shouldn't penalise someone doing a job better than the rest) |
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Analyse that further and you can see that be even the low funded private Holden teams have had more wins than the factory funded Nissan, Volvo (and Erebus) teams put together! But of course, I keep forgetting that Holden is born to rule, so the status quo can't be allowed to change... Last edited by Chris - Melb; 8 May 2014 at 11:25. |
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If you want to be angry and point fingers at anyone point them at Ford for doing a half assed job. |
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I reckon Ford Performance Racing is doing an exceptional job with Ford money, thank you very much. |
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It was widely known that GRM were manufacturer shopping for some time in the lead up to the COTF change over. That extra 12 months getting the chassis sorted was a good move.
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Shouldn't the disadvantaged teams address the problems directly rather then running to the PTB? |
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As someone else pointed out, it's a 'technical' parity system, not a 'performance' parity. So if the specifications of a particular vehicle provide an advantage in a certain area, then that is equalised across the makes. |
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I don't need the need for the 'parity police' to change anything in the cars.
We've had a mix of cars on the podium. If Nissan is behind this, they need to lift their game- not nobble the others. The only place we we need some parity adjustments is the blind Freddy who's so damn inconsistant with driver penalties. |
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I agree........if a team has a quad-cam engine with more power, then good luck to them, let them race it........it's up to Ford and holden teams to work harder and smarter to catch up.
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If we did then we would not have a system of equal fuel stops to allow for the extra fuel burn of the quad cam engine |
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Those with dinosaur push-rod engines need to stop whinging and to work harder, smarter or update their engines to the new spec that is allowed.
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its the quad cams that were having the fuel economy issues. Clearly modern is not better if that is the case |
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