Racing a Ford Anglia

[Gerry Taylor]

Thank you Dave (A.310Man) for that lovely comment. I am still here sitting back and enjoying the posts about a great little racing saloon. I will be taking in a few races this season, now that I have a little more time. So hope to see a few of you around.
Cheers.
Gerry

[Gerry Taylor]

Just an added piece of info. Both Roger & I raced the Anglia with flattened leaf springs, and we didn't do too bad.

[Paul Bagnall]

Here is a legend for you gents:

[Andy Clegg]

Thanks for that Paul.I've just been reading "the Lost Generation", about Roger,
Tom Pryce and Tony Brise. That was very interesting.
Andy.

[E.B]

A bit OT but 'the Lost Generation' is a brilliant book.

[Gerry Taylor]

What can I say about Roger and the Anglia that hasn't already been said? He was an incredible driver. Not only that, he was a nice bloke. I was lucky to have been around Saloon car racing at the same time as he was. Often when I had a bad day, a bad practice time, I would think about how Roger would have faired? knowing full well that he would have put it on pole. He really was that good.

[Paul Bagnall]

Here is the Anglia after Gerry Taylor acquired it from Roger.

[Stephan123]

Hey there to anybody,
I hope there is still some live in this threat about the racing anglia´s.
Well first I think that I have to opoligize for my bad english but I´m from germany and try to do as good as I can.
I´m building up an anglia for classic racing to the FIA appendix K regulations for the time period till 1969.
It looks like I´m the only person here in Germany who does racing an Anglia
I´m allready race the car in a smaller series now where specification´s a not a big issue.
After i´ve been in contact for the HTP with the FIA for a longer time I found out that thea are not realy honest with what they do not very accurat with the homoligation papers they sold to me.
There were much much modifications that were allowed as mentioned in the paperwork they provid.
Anyway, in the moment I struggle with the Strut brace which was okay with them a few weeks before. They ask me to prove that there was an Anglia running with a strut brace in any kind of international race anywhere in the world between 1963 and 1969.
What I would need is picture, an articel, someone how had raced a car or know someone who did ect. Any little would help.
Kind regards Stephan

[morninggents]

Welcome to the forum Stephan.
I do not remember Anglias running in international events in period using a strut brace. I have a friend who worked for Broadspeed in period who I will ask.

[Stephan123]

Hello,
That sounds very good to me. Broadspeed could be one of the team´s who know. To know someone there is a big advance. many thanks for that.

Stephan

[morninggents]

Stephan, my ex-Broadspeed contact confirms that strut braces were not used in period in FIA/International racing.

[Stephan123]

Thank´s for the very quick reply
even it´s of course not what I would like to hear, thank´s very much for this info. Do you know if the BRSCC Races do have an international status at this period ? talking about 1966-1969.
kind regards Stephan

[morninggents]

I'm not sure. There may be some people on this forum who may know.

[Stephan123]

Good morning,
It´s me again with a question , of course. I´m still struggeling with the Homoligation for my Anglia.
Do you know or could you be so kind to ask your friend the Ex broadspeed mechanic about the cabburaters they use?
because I´m not try to homoligate Period 1961-1965 but Period 1966-1969 as far as I know there where used 2x double Webbers or dellortos but need a proof of this.
I would appriciate any kind of help. This FIA guys make me crazy :-)

[zefarelly]

a good 1500 could be a race winner in CTCRC. 1500's run in HRSR as well, but very different beasts, and expensive to be competitive.

[zefarelly]

superspeed Anglias where fitted with twin webers, in the UK all the anglias wen 1L down draft, or 1300 late 60's, but, I tihnk, it was all club stuff, then the Escort took over. to my knowledge its only the earlier homologations which stand. ie 997 or 1200 super, and the allardettes, and they're mostly homologated in the GT class!

[Stephan123]

Good morning,
I´m trying to homoligate it FIA Appendix K Period G1 1966-1969. At October 1966 the 5 bearing Block was homoligated and as far as I found out with 1300cm³ pre crossflow
I ask the FIA but they wont give me the homoligation papers for that engine. or cabbs.At the end i was very luky to get it from an english motor sport sruteneer. But he doesn´t had anything about cabburators. On Period pictures there where cars with 2 doubles on it.

Because the Escorts appeared this was for a very short time only. 1500cm³ are unfurtually not allowed in FIA races
Most of the FIA Anglias are Period F 1961-1965 1000cm³ or 1200cm³ with the old 3 bearing engine.

[zefarelly]

the 5 bearing 1300cc precrossflow was only used in the MK2 Cortina to my knowledge, it was never fitted to an Anglia for production.

the block looks the same externally, and you wouldn't be the first to use a '5 bearing 1200'

not trying to get you down, but the Anglia was never well endowed Internationally and I think your going to struggle to get papers on anything competitive. A shame really as plenty of people have proven its winning capabilites at club level.

When they're not drinking beer on a beach!

[GORDON STREETER]

Originally Posted by zefarelly

When they're not drinking beer on a beach!

[morninggents]

Hi Stefan. To my knowledge the Group 2 Anglias 1966 onwards were still single carburetor. What do your FIA papers say about carburation?
You may have seen twin Webers on the Group 5 versions that ran for a year or two around the late 60s. It was a confusing period as the UK and Euro Group 5 regs were different.
I am seeing my Broadspeed contact this weekend and will ask the question.

[Stephan123]

hello morninggents,
Thank´s for the answer and for asking your friend in advance. The paperwork I got from the FIA is worth zero to nothing.
They avoid to deliver the needed Homoigation sheeds even I had for for.
The stuff from them I´ve got said 1200 cm³ and Single cab.
As mentioned bevor I was very lucky to get the homoligatin sheet concerning the engine from an english scruteneer. This sheed dated in Oktober 1966 and as far as I know they changed over to escorts in 1967 for International races.
So this cars won´t be even run more than one or two races. Nearly all international running Anglias with appendix K are homoligated Period F from1961 to 1965. I try to homoligate K Period G1 from 1966 to 1969. I know that most of the people have never heard about an 1300 five bearing pre crossflow in an race Anglia but I have the paperwork to proof it. The crankshaft and main baerings are Cortina MK2. I´m pretty shure that there is an additionell sheed for caburattores.
Group 5 in UK and Fia where different but get together at one stage. Any stuff that was used till 1969 in FIA axcepted Races is allowed.
I also found an Anglia in austria yesterday that is appendix K period F with this 1300 engine. The man how owns the car is on Holliday in the moment, but I talked to a friend of him and he confirmed this. He promised to ask the owner to ask if he could send the HTP to me

I know it´s easyer to build an escort but I love this Anglia. It`s the only one in Germany on the circuits in the moment. And who want´s to see a race with cars that looks all the same.

Kind regards Stephan

[Al Weyman]

They never fitted the Anglia with the 1300cc engine. The largest engine ever fitted from the factory was a 1200 I used to work on the things years ago. I guarantee you now if they had ever been fitted with the 1300cc 5 bearing engine the historic scene would be awash with the cars. As it is with the 1200cc 3 bearing engine they never could hold a candle to a Mini and thats why you never see them around. As others have suggested look for a championship like UK's Classic Touring Car Racing Club which specifically allows the 1500cc ebgine to be used in the Anglia and there are several quick ones running in the Classic championships and are on par with the Minis and the Lotus Cortinas. Its not purist FIA Apps K like you are hoping for but I think its the only way you will ever competively run one of these cars.

BTW a friend of mine who lived round the corner from me did buy a brand new one with a 1500 GT engine fitted and I cannot remember the conversion but they did quite a few in the day but not officially Ford, maybe that would count as it was OK for Frank Gardner with the alloy engine Camaro that was converted in a back street garage not the factory!

[Robyn Slater]

Sounds like it was a Superspeed conversion, Al

[Al Weyman]

That name rings a bell, when well as I recollect.

[morninggents]

Stephan, I spoke to my ex Broadspeed friend last week and he was quite clear that the Ford Anglia never ran in FIA Group 2 with twin carbs. Not in pre-66 or in 66-69 spec. It did have twin downdraughts from Broadspeed and twin sidedraughts from Superspeed in Group 5 after 01.01.1966.
Sorry this is not the information you require.