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Broken throttle cable in the dying stages, great battle with Sheddon up until then and he drove very well to win with the Ford Galaxy in St Mary's trophy, always been quick in Porsches and Audis.
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A gallery is here: https://motorsportintheuk.co.uk/p1044695217
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20 Sep 2022, 20:18 (Ref:4126630) | #55 | ||
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What did that V16 sound like?
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21 Sep 2022, 08:31 (Ref:4126660) | #57 | |
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Was the BRM being restrained? While the ERAs have been refined to better than original, I would have though the BRM would be quicker on the straights at least.
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21 Sep 2022, 08:36 (Ref:4126663) | #58 | |
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The BRM was period correct in every way. It looked great, screamed a loud and wonderful song and then broke.
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21 Sep 2022, 10:52 (Ref:4126675) | #59 | ||
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Plus ca change , plus ca la meme chose .
I have seen the V16 several times and whilst undeniably impressive I do find the noise bordering on the hysterical . I prefer BRM and Matra V12s , and the flat twelves in Ferrari 312B and 312T . Oh, and the gorgeous little 1.5 in the 1512 . But - and it may be blasphemy on a historical thread - my favourite engine note by a big margin was the extraordinary Toyota V10 F1 TF105 of 2005. Seismic rumbles , bangs and clicks at low revs and the most soul stirring , doomy howl to 19,000rpm . Amazing |
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You're mixing it up with the Members Meeting where membership is a requirement - the clue is in the name...... I was a member for many years but let it lapse a few years ago, I still got an invite because the car was right for the Madgwick Cup this year. |
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Ah thanks for the correction. As you say I am mixing it up with the members meeting.
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Autosport described it thus:
Last weekend’s Revival was a little less subtle. In the TT, 2009 F1 world champion Jenson Button stormed off into a 20s lead aboard Adrian Newey’s E-type. It was visibly pulling away from the Cobra-led competition on the straights, just like it wouldn’t have done in period. Even on a screen, it looked squatter and more slammed than its fellow Jags. To enter the race, the car obviously passed scrutineering. But this appeared very much a Goodwood ‘hot rod’ special. |
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I may well be entirely mistaken here, but I cannot recall any of the Newey cars, such as the Jag and the GT40, being present over the last couple of years. I assumed that this was because they had proved to be considerably swifter than other cars of that period that they were supposed to be competing with, and therefore Goodwood had invited them to the Revival.
As I commented on the Spa thread, one has to wonder how original a lot of these cars actually are and whether they were only created very recently! |
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It's Spa 6 hrs next week with a fleet of GT40's and Cobras the great majority of which have been built in last ten years. If you own a proper GT40 why risk it when you can race a copy that costs 10:20% of an original. The decision then is to replicate the original or make what is effectively a hot rod. |
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Most of the cars are new
Most of the cars are hot rods The TT and St MArys are like whacky races It is a profitable industry for many and makes a great spectacle. History has been rewritten for so long now most people have forgotten what it was actually like |
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24 Sep 2022, 19:19 (Ref:4127144) | #68 | |
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Combe today was much closer to what it was actually like. At least as I remember it, though it’s a long time ago.
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Was Brian Redman at Goodwood 2022? :-)
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"Should Jaguar meddle with history? One of the best clips in the show is when he visits the Goodwood Members’ Meeting and the owner of original #01 explains why the newcomers shouldn’t be allowed to race as they are essentially brand new cars. And in a fascinating interview with Lord March, the earl and historic motorsport bigwig dismisses the 2015 Lightweights as ‘replicas’ and says they wouldn’t be welcome to race at Goodwood." How are we left?? |
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It's a pantomime where reality takes the weekend off and a good time is had by all. Old racers can never be period correct and it's disingenuous to think they can be , or should be. It's a fabulous event which offers fantastic racing and the opportunity to see some extraordinary drivers from past and present . And if an A 40 is faster than it really has any right to be , or an E-Type has nearer 400bhp than 300 I really don't lose any sleep about it . |
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It's entertaining, it's colourful, spectacular and the drivers and spectators love it. If the pedantics want to pull it to pieces then so be it but having been to the Le Mans classics several times I'm not at all sure that all the participating vehicles there were period correct either except in outward appearance. |
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So in short, no one cares for history, just an easy time in comfy shoes and instant plastic gratification.
Historic racing is dead, sold its soul to the money men |
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