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21 Nov 2005, 14:26 (Ref:1466540)
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2 88 cars in Oz brennan has 1 cant recall the other car owner both came in from the usa
the rt1 car that is mentioned above at powerslide racing was owned by the ozzie but he sold it to the team before he went back to Oz i cant recall if he took the car from oz to usa |
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21 Nov 2005, 21:47 (Ref:1466892)
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The RT1 you are discussing came from Australia in the hands of Peter Mohr , it is from memory chassis 5, I assisted Peter with the rebuild and the car was back in period Cathay Pacific livery .
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21 Nov 2005, 21:54 (Ref:1466904)
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cant understand why peter didnt take the car back to Oz it would be a rare car there now!
rt4 are as common as muck would like to know if the rt1 f2 cars are basically atlantic cars as the f3 suspension is same shape but narrower different uprights with slimmer bodywork was the 1st theodore f1 car an f1 spec rt1 clone car? i dont have my A-z book to hand |
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22 Nov 2005, 09:46 (Ref:1467204)
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22 Nov 2005, 10:52 (Ref:1467276)
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well i was close!
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22 Nov 2005, 11:11 (Ref:1467303)
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 Back to RT1 chassis: On my never-ending quest to reslove the missing history of the British Sprint Championship I am once again trawling through old Autosport magazines. I spotted an ad in the 10th Novemeber 1977 issue for the following: Ralt RT1-72 (May 1977) FGA 277 Gearbox; 2.0 Cosworth BDG It was being sold by Graham Eden Racing. I think this may have been the car that ended up with Jackie Harris in the 80s. 
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22 Nov 2005, 15:02 (Ref:1467519)
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Steve, that car was in fact not sold by Eden over the 77-78 winter. They retained it for Mike Wilds in the F2 Aurora division for 78. It then went to Ian Briggs for UK Atlantic in late79 and 1980. May well be the one Jackie Harris had later on, or that could have been the Catlow car, which we think was the ex-Turnbull hillclimber.
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22 Nov 2005, 19:42 (Ref:1467763)
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My notes say RT1-72 was indeed raced by Mike Wilds and then Ian Briggs, then Jackie Harris from c1986 to c1991. The same notes suggest (repeat, suggest) thatTony Rougg might have been this car's first driver.
To confuse the issue, Jackie Harris also had a second RT1, number unknown, which I believe was an ex-CanAm car with Chevrolet V6 engine |
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23 Nov 2005, 13:16 (Ref:1468310)
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David, the notes are spot-on. The car was first run by Graham Eden for Tony Rouff (was he related to Tony Rougg!!) after their Sana burnt out in early 77. Rouff won at Thruxton in G8 that year, beating sundry F1/F5000s, and generally had a good year in it. Re the Sana, does anyone know what happened to the other chassis, the one Andy Barton had and converted to the Barton JTB3 ? I can't recall seeing it after about 1980.
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22 Dec 2005, 22:02 (Ref:1488955)
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One for you to check against your RT 1 records. The ex-Luciano Pavesi car from 76 was an F3 car and was powered by an Alfa engine. This car was recently imported from Italy in original condition and sold through the Race Car Warehouse. It is now owned by Ian Fisher and is due to run in the Classic F3 series in 06. Matthew |
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3 Jan 2006, 10:19 (Ref:1493987)
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Matthew, the Pavesi car was definitely run as an F2 car from mid-76 into 77, with Hart as I recall. Was it easy to convert to an F3, or did Pavesi have 2 separate cars ?
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3 Jan 2006, 13:29 (Ref:1494096)
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F2 cars will have wider wishbones ft200 gbox wider rims bigger wheels than f3 car maybe stiffer tub or engine mnts onto tub
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3 Jan 2006, 14:35 (Ref:1494158)
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I guess the one Matthew mentions is not the Pavesi car, -28 from Adam's list.
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4 Jan 2006, 00:05 (Ref:1494473)
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It is not un-common to convert an F3 RT-1 to a "vintage" atlantic or F2 RT-1. Not saying it is appropriate - just not un-common. Not difficult for a decent fab shop with the knowledge of the differences.
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4 Jan 2006, 08:11 (Ref:1494583)
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The RT-1 of Luciano Pavesi was chassie No 24 started life with a Ford T/C in the back and was converted to take the ALFA power plant later on that year.The F2 car was not converted back to anything during the time i worked at Ralt Italy.
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5 Jan 2006, 10:18 (Ref:1495359)
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Do you have records of who had other cars consigned via McCarthy's Ralt Italy operation? Know that Mantova had chassis 27, so was 32 [the last 1976 car] Tenani? What/who was chassis 28? What about in 1977? Were you still there? |
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11 Jan 2006, 09:35 (Ref:1499117)
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No i don't have records i was to busy rebuilding the wrecks from each meeting in italy,They sure could make a pile of junk in a short space of time.At any given time in 1977 we would lookafter & run 5 F3 cars per meeting and travel the European F3 and some british F3 meetings,5 people on the team.?? And then F2 in between just to keep me busy. Chassis 28 was the Hart powered F2 car. Chassis 27 Mantova. Chassis 32Tenani ( is a name i have not heard). 1977 i think there was 16 to 18 RT1 racing in Italy and on a Monday we would sell a few more Chassis and parts.I would drive back to UK overnight and get another truck load and be back for the next meeting.It make me feel tied talking about it nOw |
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12 Jan 2006, 11:31 (Ref:1499829)
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Beats sitting in an office Doug !!
(Thread now locked; see here:- http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80825 - JT) Last edited by John Turner; 23 Mar 2006 at 10:15. |
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