mclaren autosport brdc award - the shortlist - Page 3

sceptic · 18 Nov 2005, 12:48 (Ref:1464068)

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Originally Posted by bella

but does history show that a driver can use the award to attract new sponsors?

Recent history doesn't.
Although some of them, Paffett and Green the key ones, have used the McLaren connection to establish close links with Mercedes, which has led to works drives for them... even if it has taken their careers in a different direction to their original aim.

I suppose it depends if they would prefer to take the cash and do DTM or struggle on their own in the hope of doing F1.

strider · 18 Nov 2005, 13:43 (Ref:1464112)

I've always felt that winning the award has helped Darren Turner achieve more than he might otherwise have done, but Alex Lloyd seems to have drawn the short straw. Even being nominated for A1GP Team GBR hasn't done him any favours yet.

I'd like to see Joey win it for several reasons, but he may be just too much of laid-back surfing dude by nature. Bet he's better at that than Dan Clarke.

sceptic · 18 Nov 2005, 13:51 (Ref:1464122)

Joey definitely has the surfer image, which is where Dan Clarke falls down.

Perhaps if Dan were to grow his hair, and bleach it...

...to give Dan credit, he does seem to be into the whole surfing lifestyle. I wonder what the waves are like off Macau?

strider · 18 Nov 2005, 16:45 (Ref:1464245)

Pretty poor, to be honest, but then I wouldn't want to go near the water there - it's disgusting!

Macau may be a great place, but it's not because of the golden beaches and crystal clear water...

sceptic · 18 Nov 2005, 16:54 (Ref:1464253)

Well thank God he's got some motor racing to do then!

sonic · 29 Nov 2005, 14:34 (Ref:1473006)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

Recent history doesn't.
Although some of them, Paffett and Green the key ones, have used the McLaren connection to establish close links with Mercedes, which has led to works drives for them... even if it has taken their careers in a different direction to their original aim.

I suppose it depends if they would prefer to take the cash and do DTM or struggle on their own in the hope of doing F1.

To be fair, paffett already had the link to Mercedes via his manager Martin Hines. And didn't Green cement his relationship with Merc Via his performances at ASM?

Overall, I would say, good PR aside, winning this award has little to no affect on a driver's ability to progress their career beyond where they would have ended up anyway - but it's nice to recognise true talent - and I think most agree that they usually pick the right winner.

This year IMHO we have some slim pickings though. My money is on Jarvis.

Emma · 1 Dec 2005, 21:59 (Ref:1475130)

Right, my money's in. (I mean that literally) I've got £40 running on Olli Jarvis.

sceptic · 1 Dec 2005, 22:04 (Ref:1475138)

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Originally Posted by Emma

Right, my money's in. (I mean that literally) I've got £40 running on Olli Jarvis.

Private bet, or is there actually a bookmaker taking bets on this?

JohnMiller · 1 Dec 2005, 22:32 (Ref:1475174)

I'd put £100 on Tappy.

**bella** · 1 Dec 2005, 22:36 (Ref:1475181)

is it about time i added a poll to this thread.... ah well, bit late now.

sceptic · 1 Dec 2005, 22:37 (Ref:1475184)

not too late for a poll..

Emma · 2 Dec 2005, 17:42 (Ref:1475847)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

Private bet, or is there actually a bookmaker taking bets on this?

Private, I'm underage

btw it's now £60 - my uncle raised it..

sceptic · 2 Dec 2005, 17:54 (Ref:1475860)

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Originally Posted by Emma

Private, I'm underage

btw it's now £60 - my uncle raised it..

Who does your uncle reckon will win then?

And what's he going to do with the £60?

Emma · 2 Dec 2005, 17:57 (Ref:1475862)

He reckons either Joey Foster, Duncan Tappy or James Jakes.
I don't have any idea what he'll do with £60 - spend it on something he'll use once then chuck it!

sceptic · 2 Dec 2005, 18:11 (Ref:1475873)

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Originally Posted by Emma

He reckons either Joey Foster, Duncan Tappy or James Jakes.
I don't have any idea what he'll do with £60 - spend it on something he'll use once then chuck it!

I think there'll be an outcry if Jakes wins it. It is probably between Foster and Tappy, although Bird has an outside chance.

**bella** · 2 Dec 2005, 18:15 (Ref:1475878)

tell him he's got to buy you dinner emma, you'll never win by backing the pretty boys

**bella** · 2 Dec 2005, 18:24 (Ref:1475884)

poll added. do your worst, people.

Emma · 2 Dec 2005, 18:28 (Ref:1475891)

I'm babysitting tonight so I'll mention dinner to him

I still think Olli will win though.

sceptic · 2 Dec 2005, 18:33 (Ref:1475896)

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Originally Posted by bella

you'll never win by backing the pretty boys

I wouldn't have said any of them was particularly good looking.
That said, I can't actually find a photo of Joe Tandy...

Emma · 2 Dec 2005, 18:36 (Ref:1475899)

Excuse me, but I find Olli Jarvis exceptionally good looking!

(this is not the reason why I'm backin him though.)

beefy · 2 Dec 2005, 20:11 (Ref:1475951)

Joey Foster would get my vote.

Emma · 2 Dec 2005, 20:19 (Ref:1475956)

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Originally Posted by sceptic

That said, I can't actually find a photo of Joe Tandy...

*cough* My mum *cough* thinks he's *cough* um, cute *cough*
(reminder: she's old enough to be his mum!)
Nothing against my ol' ma here, but y'know I really don't like it when she fancies guys I like...

**bella** · 2 Dec 2005, 23:46 (Ref:1476064)

i've spent 5 minutes trying, and i can't seem to come up with a reply to that...

however, joey foster seems to be the peoples champion at the moment, with a heroic 7 votes, followed by oli jarvis on 5.

Russfeld · 3 Dec 2005, 08:33 (Ref:1476159)

How about 'thats inevitable when you fancy everyone'

Flavio Galtieri · 3 Dec 2005, 10:47 (Ref:1476221)

I think Tandy did an exceptional job.

Ministox background can't hurt - Derek Warwick started on the short ovals - and he has to work for a living. If the prize got him a couple of tests and a race in F3 with adecent team I think he might surprise a few people.

View Poll Results: so who's going to win then?
sam bird	0	0%
joey foster	9	29.03%
james jakes	4	12.90%
oliver jarvis	8	25.81%
joe tandy	4	12.90%
duncan tappy	6	19.35%
Voters: 31. You may not vote on this poll

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