USCC (leave your axe outside) - Page 302

Breitling24 · 17 Jul 2014, 03:56 (Ref:3434753)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

Before it can stand on its feet it must stop shooting at them.

perfect

Lagunaseca_4life · 17 Jul 2014, 06:31 (Ref:3434770)

I honestly can't Stand reading shanks comments anywhere period both him and Peter baron. Shank more than anyone seems pretty delusional,looks like he wants grand am back in some sort of weird joke.this guy has so many concerns and complaints that really aren't valid when his team has never been competitive.im glad Imsa refuses to look at his separate class restarts idea,it's god awful and one of the biggest things I hated about grand am.

TF110 · 17 Jul 2014, 07:01 (Ref:3434778)

"Grand AM", lol. I just think back to that name and that it was sad to see what it became. I really started telling my friends it stood for Grand Amateur. Thats how it looked in the way it was run, and the cars that looked 'amateur'. Compared to GTE or LMP, they dont scream 'awesome' when you look at it. Reading these interviews is depressing. The series should be progressing but thats not how some of teams think.

Purist · 17 Jul 2014, 14:49 (Ref:3434901)

I know I mentioned the dedicated Safety Team in my feedback, back when the series asked for it. Now, we're hearing it from the teams, and it couldn't have come soon enough.
http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/te...a-safety-team/

EDIT: As I keep reading, and re-reading, this is disturbing, some of the things the local crews have failed to do, or have done out of ignorance.

Maelochs · 17 Jul 2014, 15:23 (Ref:3434904)

This was mildly humorous: Troy Flis describing safety crew behavior: "'I was very impressed in Canada as one of the safety crews did walk around the car and ask some questions about how to turn off the power,' he said. 'It’s great they had the interest.'”

Great they showed an interest ... in learning how to do their jobs in a potential life-and-death situation?

Some of the stuff, like closing Malucelli in the car and then not knowing how to get him out ... Imagine if the car had been burning?

Seriously, NASCAR doesn't have the budget to keep the drivers safe?

Yes, I realize that NASCAR doesn't use a safety crew with its stock cars, but those cars are indestructible. Sports cars which go just as fast and weigh half as much--and every one of which is different .... I don't see any way to train a safety crew how to deal with four dozen different cars each weekend.

Good work John Dagys.

Deleted · 17 Jul 2014, 15:44 (Ref:3434912)

Damn, I was REALLY wishing to have comment from Shank saying something like
"This series, our Grand-Am, survived fourteen seasons without dedicated safety teams and no one got murdered because of it, so frankly I don't see a reason why things would be any different in the next fourteen seasons! It's something I'm not fond of doing it as the concept is unfamiliar with me, and someway I'm sure they'll find a way to make me spend even more dollars than I already am - which is a hell of a lot more than some other people in this paddock - so I'm fully protesting against it."

But he didn't

Rodger Davies · 17 Jul 2014, 17:35 (Ref:3434937)

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Originally Posted by Maelochs

Yes, I realize that NASCAR doesn't use a safety crew with its stock cars, but those cars are indestructible.

Good work John Dagys.

I wouldn't say indestructible, but at least there is only one type of car to learn about.

Another good article, some very good, thought-provoking stuff coming out of DSC, Racer and Sportscar 365 at the moment.

Purist · 17 Jul 2014, 19:23 (Ref:3434951)

This is a link to the Safety Team article from RACER.
http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints...-s-safety-team

ThatGuy · 17 Jul 2014, 22:16 (Ref:3434981)

Are the P2s allowed to use the Le Mans aero kit whenever or does the series only allow it for certain tracks?

Mike Hedlund · 17 Jul 2014, 22:19 (Ref:3434982)

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Originally Posted by ThatGuy

Are the P2s allowed to use the Le Mans aero kit whenever or does the series only allow it for certain tracks?

Only at Daytona.

-mike

chernaudi · 17 Jul 2014, 23:04 (Ref:3434985)

LM aero kit was originally proposed to be mandatory for Daytona, Indy, and Road America. It was ultimately decided that it would be required only for Daytona.

ThatGuy · 17 Jul 2014, 23:36 (Ref:3434990)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

LM aero kit was originally proposed to be mandatory for Daytona, Indy, and Road America. It was ultimately decided that it would be required only for Daytona.

Do you think it was due to it not providing enough of an advantage outside of Daytona, if any?

chernaudi · 17 Jul 2014, 23:41 (Ref:3434992)

Prototypes were the only cars with LM/Daytona aero kits. LMPCs basically raced as they were in other races, the GTLM cars didn't run LM aero at Daytona (I don't think that Corvette had a dedicated LM aero kit even for LM, nor does the Ferrari 458, though that's in development hell as the FIA and ACO haven't homologated it yet), and the GTD cars don't have dedicated low/high downforce aero.

HORNDAWG · 18 Jul 2014, 00:17 (Ref:3434997)

Pre Indy AoP.....

http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...0%2314-111.pdf

L.P.

BullMan · 18 Jul 2014, 00:42 (Ref:3435003)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Prototypes were the only cars with LM/Daytona aero kits. LMPCs basically raced as they were in other races, the GTLM cars didn't run LM aero at Daytona (I don't think that Corvette had a dedicated LM aero kit even for LM, nor does the Ferrari 458, though that's in development hell as the FIA and ACO haven't homologated it yet), and the GTD cars don't have dedicated low/high downforce aero.

The Ferrari LM24 aero was homologated at that race. It hasn't been approved for TUSC use though.

HORNDAWG · 18 Jul 2014, 00:58 (Ref:3435006)

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Originally Posted by chernaudi

Prototypes were the only cars with LM/Daytona aero kits. LMPCs basically raced as they were in other races, the GTLM cars didn't run LM aero at Daytona (I don't think that Corvette had a dedicated LM aero kit even for LM, nor does the Ferrari 458, though that's in development hell as the FIA and ACO haven't homologated it yet), and the GTD cars don't have dedicated low/high downforce aero.

PCs had a big wing adjustment for Daytona, slowed them WAY down. The 458 did have a LM Aero kit and it is homologated.
http://www.fia.com/sites/default/fil...P-310514V4.pdf

L.P.

**joeb** · 18 Jul 2014, 02:52 (Ref:3435022)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Pre Indy AoP.....

http://www.imsa.com/sites/default/fi...0%2314-111.pdf

L.P.

That wasn't a little one in gt....

Articus · 18 Jul 2014, 03:13 (Ref:3435023)

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Originally Posted by joeb

That wasn't a little one in gt....

Seems like Porsche and Ferrari will be a big factor at Indy.

Wholesale changes in that class.

HORNDAWG · 18 Jul 2014, 04:38 (Ref:3435035)

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Originally Posted by joeb

That wasn't a little one in gt....

Should pretty much guarantee Vette will not get 5 in a row, and the Viper is the favorite IMO.

L.P.

Deleted · 18 Jul 2014, 05:44 (Ref:3435047)

When was the last time you had Pratt&Miller Corvette running such weight in major series? Maybe Phoenix C6.R at GTWC Silverstone 2010, I think BoP + success ballast put them at 1270kg. Don't remember if they had higher weight later in the season though

IIRC there hasn't been inter-LMP2 BoP fiddling until now?

Ecoboost got again their race-by-race adjustment...

GTD Viper gets more fuel AND bigger fuel restrictor... after just winning... now has 24 liters more than Porsche

TF110 · 18 Jul 2014, 06:40 (Ref:3435056)

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Originally Posted by Chiana

When was the last time you had Pratt&Miller Corvette running such weight in major series? Maybe Phoenix C6.R at GTWC Silverstone 2010, I think BoP + success ballast put them at 1270kg. Don't remember if they had higher weight later in the season though

IIRC there hasn't been inter-LMP2 BoP fiddling until now?

Ecoboost got again their race-by-race adjustment...

GTD Viper gets more fuel AND bigger fuel restrictor... after just winning... now has 24 liters more than Porsche

Viper also weighs 110kg more than that porsche. V10 vs H6 probably a big factor as well.

Deleted · 18 Jul 2014, 06:54 (Ref:3435062)

True and it's rather common stuff in (basically) GT3 class, however increasing the capacities and refills just after winning is still... interesting

carbon_titanium · 18 Jul 2014, 07:33 (Ref:3435073)

beyond weight and restrictors break, 458 obtained also a +100 of RW height! maybe we will see a rear wing similiar to the one used last year in gt open. Anyway fuel tank bop of TUSC is insane... and I don't know how much usefull is, being everyone however forced to have the same refuel pit stops.

Deleted · 18 Jul 2014, 08:12 (Ref:3435076)

Well it does mention "Ferrari F458 is permitted the use of the 2011 rear wing profile"

carbon_titanium · 18 Jul 2014, 12:46 (Ref:3435129)

Unfortunately for ferrari, it seems that the only real deal for them is to have Bruni in the car.

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