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Watch live on BBC or Sky depending which it is on. | 36 | 32.73% | |
Watch only BBC live or delayed/highlights. | 48 | 43.64% | |
Watch only BBC live (live or not bother). | 16 | 14.55% | |
Not watch, it is over for me. | 10 | 9.09% | |
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12 Sep 2011, 20:19 (Ref:2954673) | #751 | |||
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12 Sep 2011, 21:38 (Ref:2954718) | #752 | ||
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Totally agree. Boycotting the BBC, like some are saying they will, is a ridiculous thing to do anyway - it only weakens the case for keeping F1 terrestrial!
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21 Sep 2011, 15:05 (Ref:2959113) | #754 | |
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Apparently some have been switching off already. Some because their 'hero' is now unlikely to win the championship. Some because they have maybe forgotten that all analogue terrestrial channels switched to digital in the UK today (phase 2). So they need to folk out for a new TV set or a digi-box.
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22 Sep 2011, 00:04 (Ref:2959332) | #755 | ||
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Shocking news....
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22 Sep 2011, 13:36 (Ref:2959560) | #756 | |
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In other shocking news: SKY target Brundle for lead commentary position.
http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/2...2012-coverage/ |
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22 Sep 2011, 20:43 (Ref:2959717) | #758 | |||
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23 Sep 2011, 12:55 (Ref:2959936) | #759 | |
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The decision reeks of Murdoch and Ecclestone greed. It's a daft decision for the sport though, but why would 80+ year old billionaires care about the future?
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23 Sep 2011, 18:24 (Ref:2960067) | #760 | |||
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They've each spent their whole lives striving for it and the fact that they are each over 80 isn't going to stop that! |
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27 Sep 2011, 12:22 (Ref:2961623) | #761 | ||
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Could not agree more, Ecclestone most certainly has no regard even for himself or his family, to associate himself with Murdoch, and the level to which that man has reduced journalism to, I am surprised the Government has allowed the BBC to sleep in the same bed. Or maybe anyone of us should not be surprised at all.
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30 Sep 2011, 09:12 (Ref:2962854) | #762 | |
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Haven't you guys held a royal commission over this yet? It must be a national catastrophe the way it is being complained about here.
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30 Sep 2011, 12:12 (Ref:2962919) | #763 | ||
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I sent an e-mail to the producer of F1 and he wrote back and said he was devastated and angry at the decision. I also sent an e-mail to the woman director of sport for the BBC and I got an out of office saying that if I was writing to complain about the decision to go with BBC & Sky she could not reply to each separate e-mail, but to go to the BBC web site and complain through the 'proper' channels, I have done this probably a waste of time, there is also a government petition....Sorry if this has been mentioned earlier. The deal is done I for one am gutted but I will listen to Radio 5 live together with the official 1 timing screen I will be able to keep tabs on what is going on, I will not under any circumstances subscribe to sky... what happens when a football match is on the same time as a GP, which takes second place...
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30 Sep 2011, 16:13 (Ref:2963006) | #765 | |||
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Oh go on then, i'll tell you!! For those paying for Sky they get 4 sports channels, plus the red button, so any clashes will not be a problem! |
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As said, sky have four sports channels. So no problem with the football. They're all in HD too. There are less problems with scheduling than with the BBC. No changing channels if it rains a bit too much.
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1 Oct 2011, 20:49 (Ref:2963817) | #767 | ||
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bjohnsonsmith to answer you I most certainly did e-mail her directly! That is how I got the out of office reply. And to be honest I really am not interested in how sky do F1 it will NEVER be as good as BBC, Martin, Jake Eddie and the rest of the team..... EVER!
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2 Oct 2011, 00:39 (Ref:2964135) | #768 | ||
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2 Oct 2011, 10:07 (Ref:2964265) | #769 | ||
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I too think that the sky coverage won't match the beeb coverage. Although I don't think it will be bad.
Back in the day the original beeb coverage was of high quality, but didn't have much quantity. ITV were all quantity and no quality. They gave us the big build up, but no reason to watch it! Back on the BBC and we have quantity and quality. |
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F1 is a business and Bernie just follows the money. Arguably, as a businessman, that is his sole function.
The fans are of secondary importance to money, which is why desert-based GPs have their stands filled entirely with members of the local royalty's extended family while outside the race is watched by two bored camels and a slightly bemused goat herder. The BBC is not a business and cannot really compete. From a business perspective, and unlike the Beeb, Sky must see a return on its investment in F1. This can only come from two sources; extra buyers of Sky TV, and extra advertising revenue generated from companies targeting F1 audiences. Based on this thread, the likelihood of F1 fans shelling out millions by transferring to Sky is highly unlikely, which leaves the ad revenue. If ad revenue was so lucrative, why couldn't ITV (or any of the many commercial channels) compete? They've done it before, they know the numbers. I think Sky will find this an expensive hot potato. It may burn Bernie and the FIA too. F1 has been fighting a continuous battle to make the racing exciting enough for people to want to watch, (like having tyres that self-denotate at 14 laps!). It's all becoming rather artificial and I wonder whether the term 'World Champion' might not be changed to "The guy that happened to drive for the team that made the least strategic errors." And to give Hamilton, love him or hate him, his due, he belongs to the small world of drivers who want to race - really race. And to give him and others - Webber is of the same mould - a penalty every time he dares do a Senna takes the heart out of it. Perhaps the FIA should run F1 under BTCC rules! (Last man standing?) As it stands, unless Mr Murdock just wants this as an expensive ornament to his empire - PR Bling - then I don't think he will keep it for long. And if the FIA don't buck their ideas up it won't be worth watching anyway. |
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3 Oct 2011, 20:22 (Ref:2965149) | #771 | |||
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Advertising won't pay for it that's for sure. And the Sky viewership will be far less than ITV got and probably just 20% or so of the BBC's figures. What Sky lives for are subscriptions, £60 or so going into their bank every month regular as clockwork, that's why thy are so cash rich they don't know what to do with the money they have. I can't see them selling enough extra ones to reap a substancial reward from F1 though. Which leaves us the Big Picture. The weakening of the BBC, chipping away at every opportunity, because that is really what drives James Murdoch's agenda. And until he was outed as the leader of a company who "employed" members of Her Majesty's Constabulary he might have got away with it. The trouble is he can afford the loss F1 on Sky might incur, he's in it for the long term then next contract he'll bid for the lot. |
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That's interesting because I emailed their sports section and got a generic response, so I emailed her directly and got an out of office reply as well and this was not long after the deal was announced. They were obviously anticipating a barrage of emails complaining about this.
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4 Oct 2011, 09:56 (Ref:2965425) | #774 | ||
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Just wonder what the implications of this (foreign decoders) will mean for Sky Sports and hence F1 on Sky
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15162241 |
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