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"Power gain will be tested during Prologue, will not be used during Qatar race, may be used from Imola onwards." Source: https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/wec_2024_d21_hypercar_bop_16022024.pdf
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Probaby will end up with LMHs getting a tiny bit less power past 210 kph, once they can deploy the front axle hybrid that (above all) helps drive the car on upshifts.
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They will be forcing the Toyotas to tow a caravan and the drivers can only steer with their elbows next.
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22 Feb 2024, 10:50 (Ref:4197747) | #754 | |
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Who knows, maybe. Or they will be forced to have a silver driver
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They are considering it, will get some data at Qatar, then will make sure it does what intended. If they put everything in stone from the beginning it might not work. And they should reserve the right to modify this so that it can be good! Quote:
Of course, it could have been noticed that the Toyota does have relative to the others an advantage at higher speeds, but very similar elsewhere. Although this is pure speculation on my part. Whatever I’ll be interested to see if my guess is right and interested to understand it more. Last edited by Adam43; 22 Feb 2024 at 13:20. |
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It's something new they might use to balance the cars better (or not). IMO it's better to have more tools available and seems the ACO thinks the same. Who knows, maybe they introduce even more "tricks" later on. For now let's wait and see how cars do in Qatar.
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Would someone care to remind me what the MO of the BOP is meant to be? Are they just simply penalising the faster cars to drag them back towards the slower ones or is there an equivalence of technology implemented where “theoretical performance” is the leveller?
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I don't think everything has to be revealed to the public. It's part part of the game. Not sure we could understand everything, only the results count.
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There was also a short statement regarding last year's Le Mans BOP change:
https://www.fia.com/news/wec-science...bop-adjustment |
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https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...r-bop-process/
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https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...r-imola-debut/
They didn't test drag balancing at the prologue but it can still debut at Imola. Not a bad idea IMO, best as early before Le Mans as possible to see how this works in practice. |
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I literally do not know what’s going on any more with regards to the BOP.
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How so? The ACO are quite transparent about the changes they do. And those changes to the BOP process for sure aren't to fix the races as some suggested
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That's a good question that I think can't be answered easily. There are so many things at play like different cars being strong around certain tracks and not so much somewhere else. BOP might be wrong indeed but there's no way to tell how much the results would be different if they had kept Bahrain BOP, etc. Also the changes made post-Bahrain aren't outrageous by any means, both Porsche and Toyota got nerfed a bit to a similar degree (Toyota got more weight penatly, Porsche lost more power) and Caddy lost some power too. Ofc it's possible that extra 9 kg of weight hurt Toyota's tyre management too much but we can't check this, they never raced in Qatar before. So wait and see, give the ACO time and after a few races we'll be able to draw some conclusion whether new BOP is going in a good direction or not...
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BoP. Brilliant or Pants.
The relative weight and power has hardly changed between the Toyota, Ferrari (who are apparently struggling by being 1s off the pace) and Cadillac and Porsche compared to the last race (who were presumably struggling there).
Porsche and Cadillac are now in year 2. It could be that. Or the track. Or maybe it does suggest that the BoP is a bit off (a tiny bit), but maybe it is showing that last year Toyota and Ferrari were pegged back too much. Now the teams in their second year have overtaken them because of this. But I’m still thinking about what it means. Last edited by Adam43; 1 Mar 2024 at 14:49. Reason: Shoeing to showing |
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This. They should be making sure the other cars get faster, not trying to slow down Toyota/Ferrari. IMO the weight levels are ridiculous. These cars should not be this heavy. Poor Isotta as well. |
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Yeah, there was a lot of crying about Lmdh being hit with bad BOP and Hypercars being the favoured.
While I think that is complicated, lots of politics involved, maybe 100th LM, Ferrari, Peugeot etc... the truth is that both Cadillac and Porsche were already quite fast last year - see Caddy in Le Mans and Porsche in Fuji, once they evolved and gathered experience, things changed. Also agree that almost 1100 for prototype is ridiculous and ancient... |
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They look like they are where they should be. New team with the least preparation and they are only 2s off the other newbies BMW and Lamborghini.
Well done them. I suspect they are thrilled whenever they get a good clean run in any session at the moment. |
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