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That's harsh. Sophia kicked ass in Ginetta Jrs and she was barely out of nappies at the time. That big shunt has probably had an affect on her; my brain cannot recollect the name of that famous Asian street circuit, but it really was a horrible accident.
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10 Sep 2020, 18:07 (Ref:4001512) | #7730 | |
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Hell hath no fury like a woman rammed!
Funnily enough I found myself watching the 92 review video today, maybe I should watch the 91 next just for that famous Palmer/Lindgren moment |
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10 Sep 2020, 18:43 (Ref:4001528) | #7732 | ||
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Soooo. The point has been made, women are just as good at racing so let's get back on thread.
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10 Sep 2020, 22:26 (Ref:4001560) | #7734 | |
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I was refering to ones who stand out , getting real results
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11 Sep 2020, 05:49 (Ref:4001604) | #7736 | |||
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Female drivers aren't successful. BTCC drivers are in the wrong teams. There are too many cars. BTCC has farcical teams. BTCC visits awful tracks. BTCC cars have the wrong gears. BTCC doesn't have good racing. BTCC should penalise the RWD cars. BTCC cars are too fragile. BTCC rules are draconian. BTCC drivers should punt others off. The championship is going to be a procession. It's clear you think there is a lot wrong with the BTCC - here's a challenge - what do you think the BTCC does right? |
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11 Sep 2020, 06:31 (Ref:4001608) | #7737 | ||
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I think now that we have amassed the evidence that the solution is clear.
I say we take off and nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. (and with a bit of luck we'll catch covid, BLM and everything else wrong with the world in the blast) |
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11 Sep 2020, 08:32 (Ref:4001619) | #7738 | |
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Something else for Porsche962fan to complain about, Silverstone confirmed as being behind closed doors (which I think we all sort of knew anyway)
https://www.silverstone.co.uk/btcc-sept-2020-faqs/ |
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11 Sep 2020, 09:54 (Ref:4001629) | #7739 | |
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I don't think Silverstone being a closed doors event will come as a huge surprise to anyone, at least to anyone that has been paying attention. Silverstone haven't been selling tickets to any events so far this year. I don't think Croft has run any spectators meetings so far this year either, so we can rule that one out as well.
Not BTCC, but BSB at Oulton Park next weekend will be closed as well. MSV claim they were intending to run it as a pilot event with limited spectators, which is odd because I'd not seen it on any of the DCMS approved lists prior to the most recent 'Joy Of Six' changes. If that's true then I assume MSV will try to do the same with Snetterton and Brands. https://www.gov.uk/government/news/s...ally-distanced Incidentally, the latest DCMS announcement says that selected previously approved pilot event will be able to have spectators but the limit now reduced to 1000. |
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11 Sep 2020, 14:23 (Ref:4001677) | #7742 | |
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Croft put out a post today to say the btcc will be run behind close doors
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Croft is also going to be behind closed doors - http://www.croftcircuit.co.uk/news/1...d-closed-doors
No real surprise, I have feeling the whole season will now be behind closed doors. |
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The way I see it, prior to 1999, it would have been difficult to identify a privateer entry in the btcc with 'real' results (in the modern era). Then, Matt Neal broke that mould. Over time, the 'novelty' of privateer success began to wear off. Now, in 2020, we tend to ignore the fact that Butcher and Sutton are driving for privateer entries and competing with factory backed teams.
So yes, it might be true that female drivers in the past have not won as many races as males. One day, that may change and the likes of Jade Edwards may be seen as early foundations for regular female drivers to gain wins and titles in the btcc. It's not being naive or prejudiced to recognise that not many females have competed in the past. But that doesn't mean past results are a certainty that future results for females will be the same. Hopefully, we will reach a day where the gender of a driver is hardly mentioned, alongside ethnicity, financial status or any other off-track factor that has no bearing on their potential for success. |
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those with the high moral crap should rather moan why exactly is there any separation in sports stil ??? if they supposedly as good as men
for example why doesn't SNOOKER abolish separation and women play against men say women can go directly against the likes of Ronnie O'sullivan , or in Tennis why aren't there men against women matches ??? or in SOCCER and other team sports why aren't teams mixed men/women ? say Manchaster United has 5 women and 6 men players as it stands MOTORSPORT is actually the only real sports where there is no separation and we don't have any women who could be anyway near the likes of Ronnie Peterson, Ayrton Senna, Allain Prost, Michael Schumacher and the now Lewis Hamilton steamroller ? this are not some misogynist views or other such crap, this are the cold hardt facts |
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The reasons there's never been a female driver reach the heady heights of the illustrious list you posted aren't as simple as "women are slow". Women don't get the opportunities, from the moment they arrive on the planet. And then when someone DOES get an opportunity, people decry their talent and do them down, say they're not good enough, that it's a wasted seat, that they won't be very good, they don't stand out enough, etc etc. Now tell me again why not many women reach the top of the motorsport ladder? |
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