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Old 18 Sep 2011, 14:12 (Ref:2957635)   #801
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Glad I am keeping you all interested. I think I got everyone of the cars listed on Frank de Jongs page(Except the Q racing Alfa) either in the pits or on the track, on race day.
http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jong/Races/1987%20Silverstone.html

Most of the photos on show are of reasonable quality owing to the weather conditions on the day. They were taken on Fuji slide film.
You certainly are- they're way ahead of anything I got on the day (I think I took a couple of pics of the start of the prodsaloon race, and the camera stayed in it's bag as we sheltered in the pit straight grandstand for the TT itself!).

Lindstrom's Q Racing Alfa got rolled into a ball in one of the free practice sessions on either the Friday or Saturday morning as I remember- there was a pic of the wreck in the following week's Autosport. As I remember, the other significant car that didn't make it to race day was Graham Goode's Sierra which was written off in a pre-race testing shunt, though I can't remember whether that was during one of the official practice days of the TT meeting, or in private testing earlier in the week
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Old 20 Sep 2011, 12:32 (Ref:2958483)   #802
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Richard Hilsden's Flickr collection continues to come up with the goods! This is a car that's briefly come up in the thread before, but I think this is the first pic I've ever seen of the only time I ever saw it of it- the Dutch car of Evert Bolderheij/Allard Kalff at the 1987 TT

According to the 1987 Dutch championship results posted on Frank de Jong's site, the Bolderheij Sierra was built from Rouse parts , and debuted in the Dutch series in June 87. Looking at the pic, is it still in Cosworth, rather than RS500 spec? It certainly seems to lack the additional bootlid spoiler normally seen on RS500s
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...in/photostream

We've talked about this car a while back, and Viva confirmed it was a Rouse car- however, a lot of discussion referred to it as the Marlboro car raced by Bolderheij and Jeroen Hin, rather than the plain white car in the TT pic.
http://www.bmwe21.net/temp/Hin.jpg

Now although Hin had a Group N Cosworth in 1987, his Group A mount in the Dutch series that year was a VL Commodore (the 'Playboy' car that was leased by Vic Covey/Andrew Jeffrey for the TT), so are the white Bolderheij car from the TT and Hin's Marlboro/Playboy car one and the same, or are we looking at two Dutch Group A Sierras?
Yes Kevan, the car is still running only Sierra Cosworth (not RS500) spoilers front & rear, so should be in non RS500 mechanical specification too...
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You certainly are- they're way ahead of anything I got on the day (I think I took a couple of pics of the start of the prodsaloon race, and the camera stayed in it's bag as we sheltered in the pit straight grandstand for the TT itself!).

Lindstrom's Q Racing Alfa got rolled into a ball in one of the free practice sessions on either the Friday or Saturday morning as I remember- there was a pic of the wreck in the following week's Autosport. As I remember, the other significant car that didn't make it to race day was Graham Goode's Sierra which was written off in a pre-race testing shunt, though I can't remember whether that was during one of the official practice days of the TT meeting, or in private testing earlier in the week
Graham wrote his RS500 off during practice on the Friday when his left-front Dunlop tyre sidewall blew as he turned into Stowe corner...
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Old 20 Sep 2011, 16:28 (Ref:2958607)   #803
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Yes Kevan, the car is still running only Sierra Cosworth (not RS500) spoilers front & rear, so should be in non RS500 mechanical specification too...

Graham wrote his RS500 off during practice on the Friday when his left-front Dunlop tyre sidewall blew as he turned into Stowe corner...
Thanks- I had a vague memory that Bolderheij's car was still in Sierra Cosworth, rather than RS500-spec and the picture seemed to confirm that.

Is that Graham's transporter you can see through the back of the pit garage, parked next to the Rouse/ICS truck in this pic of the Rouse car in the pit garage?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...in/photostream

No guesswork needed to identify this one though- Another of Richard Hilsden's pics, it's the start grid for the 1988 Donington ETC round, with Graham's white Listerine Sierra (and Clifford! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9THLN...eature=related )
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Another rare one just creeping into the corner of this shot of the Camac and Vanicek M3s on the grid- the black #18 car alongside the Vanicek BMW is Karl Oppitzhauser's RS500 from Austria.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...in/photostream

Another pic:
http://www.racingsportscars.com/etcc...-04-17-018.jpg
(Were Jeremy Jackson's pics on Racingsportscars taken during qualifying, as it's very obviously raining in them?- I certainly don't remember getting rained on at all on the Sunday? They also include the Dixi/Yacco 635, which was a DNS, so I guess they must be from the Saturday)

Oppitzhauser''s RS500 is another I know very little about- I know he had a 635, then an XR4Ti during 1986,
http://www.racingsportscars.com/etcc...-04-06-026.jpg
before moving on to a Cosworth for 1987/8.
He seems to be one of those semi-regular ETC runners who turned up at a lot of the mainland European races (especially his fairly 'local' rounds- Nurburgring, Salzburgring, Zeltweg, Brno etc) without ever running a full season- he certainly appeared at Donington a couple of times, but I don't ever recall him at the TT.

He seems to be best-known though for an abortive attempt to take part in the 1976 Austrian GP in a March 761...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Oppitzhauser
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Thanks- I had a vague memory that Bolderheij's car was still in Sierra Cosworth, rather than RS500-spec and the picture seemed to confirm that.

Is that Graham's transporter you can see through the back of the pit garage, parked next to the Rouse/ICS truck in this pic of the Rouse car in the pit garage?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...in/photostream


No guesswork needed to identify this one though- Another of Richard Hilsden's pics, it's the start grid for the 1988 Donington ETC round, with Graham's white Listerine Sierra (and Clifford! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9THLN...eature=related )
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...in/photostream
Very Eagle-Eyed of you there, yes that's the old (Ex Gordon Spice) GGR Plaxton / Bristol transporter outside the garage. (You can just see a part of the large 'Clifford the Dragon' on the rear).
Also, inside the Rouse garage, wearing blue overalls is Andy Rouse's right-hand-man, Vic Drake!
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Very Eagle-Eyed of you there, yes that's the old (Ex Gordon Spice) GGR Plaxton / Bristol transporter outside the garage. (You can just see a part of the large 'Clifford the Dragon' on the rear).
Also, inside the Rouse garage, wearing blue overalls is Andy Rouse's right-hand-man, Vic Drake!
Vic Drake! Is he still around? He's be a good guy to tempt onto here...
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Another rare one just creeping into the corner of this shot of the Camac and Vanicek M3s on the grid- the black #18 car alongside the Vanicek BMW is Karl Oppitzhauser's RS500 from Austria.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...in/photostream

Another pic:
http://www.racingsportscars.com/etcc...-04-17-018.jpg
(Were Jeremy Jackson's pics on Racingsportscars taken during qualifying, as it's very obviously raining in them?- I certainly don't remember getting rained on at all on the Sunday? They also include the Dixi/Yacco 635, which was a DNS, so I guess they must be from the Saturday)

Oppitzhauser''s RS500 is another I know very little about- I know he had a 635, then an XR4Ti during 1986,
http://www.racingsportscars.com/etcc...-04-06-026.jpg
before moving on to a Cosworth for 1987/8.
He seems to be one of those semi-regular ETC runners who turned up at a lot of the mainland European races (especially his fairly 'local' rounds- Nurburgring, Salzburgring, Zeltweg, Brno etc) without ever running a full season- he certainly appeared at Donington a couple of times, but I don't ever recall him at the TT.

He seems to be best-known though for an abortive attempt to take part in the 1976 Austrian GP in a March 761...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Oppitzhauser
The HWRT logo on the '86 XR4Ti suggest a Wolf Racing link. Don't know if that link was carried over to his RS500, but at least it's got the same Ronal rims.

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The HWRT logo on the '86 XR4Ti suggest a Wolf Racing link. Don't know if that link was carried over to his RS500, but at least it's got the same Ronal rims.

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Yes, I wondered about that as well. Another shot of the RS500
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Yes, I wondered about that as well. Another shot of the RS500
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Donny 1988 ETC round. Wow, I can't remember that car being there at all!

The only Sierra other than the works cars I recalled was Goode's.

The Simonsen car wasn't there was it?
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Donny 1988 ETC round. Wow, I can't remember that car being there at all!

The only Sierra other than the works cars I recalled was Goode's.

The Simonsen car wasn't there was it?
The Team CMS Sweden RS500 was entered for the race, but I believe it made it's international debut at the September TT at Silverstone. Wolf, Oppitzhauser and Bornebusch had sole cars at Donington though - the Bornebusch car being a non-starter. Frank de Jong has the Oppitzhauser car as non-starter too, but pictures of this car earlier in the thread suggest it was physically present on the dummy grid at least.

The CMS RS500 was likely a late addition to the 1988 group A ranks. Through out the year Ulf Granberg ran a silver Luna sponsored Volvo 240 Turbo for the team in the Swedish championship, likely to have ended some time in August.

Another point has gotten my attention recently: From the officially scanned MotorSport DVD I have read that 11 RS500s were entered for the opening round of the ETCC at Monza. A strike at Ford meant that spare parts were few and prevented the privateers to make the race, except one Jolly Club RS500, that eventually was withdrawn after two engine brake downs. Who were the other eight Sierras entered for Monza? At a guess I'd say Wolf, Bornebusch, Euroluigi (two cars), another Jolly Club car, Oppitzhauser, perhaps CMS and even a French Fornage car.
Confusing the matter of spare parts being limited to the privateers is the fact that nine RS500s were present at Silverstone for the opening round of the British series on the same weekend!

Just had a look at the Duke resume of the '88 Donington 500 seing that the Goode RS500 was running in fifth in the early stages, by then only behind the Eggenberger, Wolf Sierras and the Nissan, but ahead of the Schnitzer and Bigazzi BMW M3s. Eventually not a single division 1 car was classified, which must be a first?

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The Team CMS Sweden RS500 was entered for the race, but I believe it made it's international debut at the September TT at Silverstone. Wolf, Oppitzhauser and Bornebusch had sole cars at Donington though - the Bornebusch car being a non-starter. Frank de Jong has the Oppitzhauser car as non-starter too, but pictures of this car earlier in the thread suggest it was physically present on the dummy grid at least.

...Just had a look at the Duke resume of the '88 Donington 500 seing that the Goode RS500 was running in fifth in the early stages, by then only behind the Eggenberger, Wolf Sierras and the Nissan, but ahead of the Schnitzer and Bigazzi BMW M3s. Eventually not a single division 1 car was classified, which must be a first?

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From vague memory, I'm pretty sure the Oppitzhauser Sierra took the start (as you say, it can be seen in the grid pictures, and appears in some of the other pics in the same set- I'm assuming these are raceday rather than qualifying day pics- IIRC it rained for qualifying but was dry on race day), but I think it had a fairly short race, retiring in the early laps.

As you say, Donington was an odd race with the high rate of attrition amongst the Div 1 cars, to say nothing of Schnitzer and Bigazzi losing a car apiece. Watching it trackside, it almost felt like a case of 'Last man standing...

Although there were other race wins by Div 2 cars in 1987/8, I certainly can't think of another race in the entire Group A ETC/WTC era when the whole of Div 1 retired...

Pretty sure the CMS car debuted at the TT (possibly with an outing in the Swedish series first?)
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Ah yes I forgot about the Wolf car!

Agreed, the race was a strange one with all those retirements, not having a particularly big entry to begin with and it seemed to go on for 8 hours not 4.

I do recall being a bit surprised at the clear pace advantage of the Schnitzer and Bigazzi M3's compared to the Prodrive cars, but that's not Sierra related!
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came across some rare macau footage so thought I would post it up for everyone

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgND9...yer_embedded#!
Taken another look at that 1989 Macau footage Paul found on YouTube, to see if I can get a handle on the RS500s in the entry. It doesn't help that half of them seem to have been white....

According to the result as given by Frank de Jong, there were 9 Sierras present:
http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jon...9%20Macau.html

#4: Hisashi Yokoshima, one of the Trampio cars from Japan. IIRC the original Trampio Sierra from 1987 was a Rouse car- but I think they were running Eggenberger-built cars by '89?
#6: 'Gio Fan'- Clearly visible in the video when it goes off into the wall. We've talked about this one a couple of times- one of the 1988 Rouse/Kaliber cars, used by Andy at Macau in 1988 and sold on to Adrian Fu.
#7: Andy Rouse, sponsored by Hutchison Telecom.
#8: Tim Harvey, another Rouse car with in very distinctive white/dayglo green Watson's colours.
#12: Ni Amorim's car from Portugal.
#14: Stig Blomqvist, a Soderqvist car. It's seen several times in the video, but not clearly enough to tell much about it.
#15: Eddie Lee- This is the white ICOM-sponsored car which is clearly visible early in the video when it gets tagged by an M3 and spun out before rejoining. Looking at the video (screencaps attached), it's got a big 'BBR' logo on the front of the roof, so I guess it's of Dave Brodie origin...
#18: Albert Poon. An ex-Albert Poon RS500, described as a Rouse customer car, was advertised for sale back in 2008 by Oakfields- I;m guessing this is the car he used at Macau in '89
http://www.classicdriver.de/uk/find/...&dealerid=1337
#19: Kaj Bornebusch- presumably the same car he'd raced at home in Sweden, and in at least one early-season BTCC round.

When the Eddie Lee car is seen being spun out early in the video, three other Sierras are seen in the lower-midfield just before the incident- One looks like the 'Gio Fan' car, the other two are both white- either Poon, Amorim or Bornebusch I guess.

Pics attached are the Yokoshima, 'Gio Fan', Rouse, Harvey and Lee cars- note the BBR logo on the roof of #15
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From vague memory, I'm pretty sure the Oppitzhauser Sierra took the start (as you say, it can be seen in the grid pictures, and appears in some of the other pics in the same set- I'm assuming these are raceday rather than qualifying day pics- IIRC it rained for qualifying but was dry on race day), but I think it had a fairly short race, retiring in the early laps.

As you say, Donington was an odd race with the high rate of attrition amongst the Div 1 cars, to say nothing of Schnitzer and Bigazzi losing a car apiece. Watching it trackside, it almost felt like a case of 'Last man standing...

Although there were other race wins by Div 2 cars in 1987/8, I certainly can't think of another race in the entire Group A ETC/WTC era when the whole of Div 1 retired...

Pretty sure the CMS car debuted at the TT (possibly with an outing in the Swedish series first?)
I can confirm that they are race pictures, as I did not attend practice days normally.
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Thaks Richard- I usually went to the practice days for the Donington Group C meetings, but don't recall ever doing so for the ETC rounds- and I was pretty sure I didn't remember getting rained on, unlike the TT the previous year!

Incidentally, if any of us who were at the '87 TT need any further reminder than your pics of just how lovely the weather was that day, I've found the race coverage on Youtube...

Plenty of RS500 action, although it would be BMW's day...
Incidentally, and slightly off-topic, I'd forgotten just how epic Peter Oberndorfer's start was in the AMG Merc 190- 4th into Copse behind the Eggenberger and Rouse Sierras, from 11th on the grid....
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The Poon car advertised by Oakfields in 08 is the white BBR car they are currently selling. They kept it and had it restored instead.

They thought it was the Poon car initially, but after resto seemed to think it was the BBR car instead.

Wierd thing is it runs the Rouse mechanical fuel pump which no other builders used. I know it was reshelled whilst still in the far east so possibly it was rebuilt over there from the remains of both cars.



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Taken another look at that 1989 Macau footage Paul found on YouTube, to see if I can get a handle on the RS500s in the entry. It doesn't help that half of them seem to have been white....

According to the result as given by Frank de Jong, there were 9 Sierras present:
http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jon...9%20Macau.html

#4: Hisashi Yokoshima, one of the Trampio cars from Japan. IIRC the original Trampio Sierra from 1987 was a Rouse car- but I think they were running Eggenberger-built cars by '89?
#6: 'Gio Fan'- Clearly visible in the video when it goes off into the wall. We've talked about this one a couple of times- one of the 1988 Rouse/Kaliber cars, used by Andy at Macau in 1988 and sold on to Adrian Fu.
#7: Andy Rouse, sponsored by Hutchison Telecom.
#8: Tim Harvey, another Rouse car with in very distinctive white/dayglo green Watson's colours.
#12: Ni Amorim's car from Portugal.
#14: Stig Blomqvist, a Soderqvist car. It's seen several times in the video, but not clearly enough to tell much about it.
#15: Eddie Lee- This is the white ICOM-sponsored car which is clearly visible early in the video when it gets tagged by an M3 and spun out before rejoining. Looking at the video (screencaps attached), it's got a big 'BBR' logo on the front of the roof, so I guess it's of Dave Brodie origin...
#18: Albert Poon. An ex-Albert Poon RS500, described as a Rouse customer car, was advertised for sale back in 2008 by Oakfields- I;m guessing this is the car he used at Macau in '89
http://www.classicdriver.de/uk/find/...&dealerid=1337
#19: Kaj Bornebusch- presumably the same car he'd raced at home in Sweden, and in at least one early-season BTCC round.

When the Eddie Lee car is seen being spun out early in the video, three other Sierras are seen in the lower-midfield just before the incident- One looks like the 'Gio Fan' car, the other two are both white- either Poon, Amorim or Bornebusch I guess.

Pics attached are the Yokoshima, 'Gio Fan', Rouse, Harvey and Lee cars- note the BBR logo on the roof of #15
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Taken another look at that 1989 Macau footage Paul found on YouTube, to see if I can get a handle on the RS500s in the entry. It doesn't help that half of them seem to have been white....

According to the result as given by Frank de Jong, there were 9 Sierras present:
http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jon...9%20Macau.html

#14: Stig Blomqvist, a Soderqvist car. It's seen several times in the video, but not clearly enough to tell much about it.
I think this was his usual car from the Swedish championship, as it was also black.

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Another RS500 question- there were at least a couple of cars in Portugal, but I'm not totally sure of their origin. Early in the thread, Brickyard gave an outline of these- one car in 'Traffic' colours for Ni Amorim, one in 'Gianfranco' colours for Carlos Rodrigues, and a third, described as converted from a 1987-spec Cosworth, for Antonio Rodrigues.

http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....7&postcount=18

Brickyard said the 'Traffic' and 'Gianfranco' cars came from the UK- but did we ever establish where they came from. Rouse?

Now I might be misunderstanding Brickyard's post, but I'm not totally clear which car is which in the pics he posted. The 'Gianfranco' car is Carlos Rodrigues...
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/406/carlosrodriguesviladocoyh9.jpg/

and I think this one in 'Fundador' colours-is the Antonio Rodrigues car (IIRC Fundador were the sponsor on his previous Volvo?) Interesting to see the prominent 'Mountune Race Engines' sunstrip...
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...ampadahb5.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/f/406/fernandop...doconduj8.jpg/

The Amorim car can be seen in the background of one of these, but there's a clearer shot capped from a Youtube clip of the 1988 Estoril ETCC race attached.

The Estoril race video- also features the Eggenberger, Wolf and Bornebusch cars prominently
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQdzobQnYRU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD5nGh35aBw

also the Rampa da Falperra hillclimb- the 'Gianfranco' and 'Fundador' cars feature a couple of times, first at about 2m50
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69ls4...eature=related
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Richard Hilsden's Flickr collection continues to come up with the goods! This is a car that's briefly come up in the thread before, but I think this is the first pic I've ever seen of the only time I ever saw it of it- the Dutch car of Evert Bolderheij/Allard Kalff at the 1987 TT

According to the 1987 Dutch championship results posted on Frank de Jong's site, the Bolderheij Sierra was built from Rouse parts , and debuted in the Dutch series in June 87. Looking at the pic, is it still in Cosworth, rather than RS500 spec? It certainly seems to lack the additional bootlid spoiler normally seen on RS500s
http://www.flickr.com/photos/richard...in/photostream

We've talked about this car a while back, and Viva confirmed it was a Rouse car- however, a lot of discussion referred to it as the Marlboro car raced by Bolderheij and Jeroen Hin, rather than the plain white car in the TT pic.
http://www.bmwe21.net/temp/Hin.jpg
That's correct, I'll change the Silverstone entry for them. Oddly enough, I rightly did not use the RS500 specification in the car's Dutch championship outings...
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That's correct, I'll change the Silverstone entry for them. Oddly enough, I rightly did not use the RS500 specification in the car's Dutch championship outings...
Hi Frank- Another Sierra you might want to add to the Silverstone TT entry is Graham Goode's Listerine RS500, shared with Ray Bellm, which was a casualty of the Friday free practice session, as confirmed by Viva a couple of pages back.
http://tentenths.com/forum/showthrea...de#post2958483

As I remember, there were a couple more (off-topic!) DNQs as well- the two CiBiEmme 635s and Alan Minshaw's Golf. I'll email you some notes
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Now although Hin had a Group N Cosworth in 1987, his Group A mount in the Dutch series that year was a VL Commodore (the 'Playboy' car that was leased by Vic Covey/Andrew Jeffrey for the TT), so are the white Bolderheij car from the TT and Hin's Marlboro/Playboy car one and the same, or are we looking at two Dutch Group A Sierras?
As I'm working on 1988, there were two Sierras: the Bolderheij car, rebuilt to RS 500 finally, and Hin's Marlboro car. The latter was, it is said in Dutch magazines, an ex-Rouse car, metallic blue on the inside.
Bolderheij had to sell his car before the season because of lacking sponsorship.
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As I'm working on 1988, there were two Sierras: the Bolderheij car, rebuilt to RS 500 finally, and Hin's Marlboro car. The latter was, it is said in Dutch magazines, an ex-Rouse car, metallic blue on the inside.
Bolderheij had to sell his car before the season because of lacking sponsorship.
That's interesting- metallic blue inside suggests it was one of the ICS cars....

Rouse seems to have had 4 Cosworths in 1987:

Red WTCC car
http://www.racingsportscars.com/etcc...-08-02-008.jpg

White WTCC car (appeared twice AFAIK- Batibouw-sponsored at Spa, then again at Bathurst in Moffat's ANZ colours)
http://www.racingsportscars.com/etcc...-08-02-017.jpg

Peter Hall's ICS car (seen in the BTCC and the TT)
http://www.racingsportscars.com/etcc...-09-06-011.jpg

and Rouse's own ICS car, which appeared in the BTCC rounds that didn't clash with his WTCC campaign, occasionally driven by Win Percy (IIRC Win did the Silverstone GP meeting)

Did Peter Hall use the same car in 1987 and 88 (before stepping down in favour of Robb Gravett?) IIRC the 1988 Hall/Gravett car went to Australia (became one of the 1989 Brock cars), but was it the same car that Pete had used in 1987?

If so, then this suggests the Hin car might have started life as the 1987 Rouse/Percy BTCC car?

Anyone got an idea where the Bolderheij car went after being sold?

(PS, I've emailed you those TT notes- more to follow)
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About the Bolderheij car, there was an advertisement in a Dutch magazine of June 88 (which was printed somewhere in May), where Bolderheij asks for a sponsor and a decent paying co-driver to enter the Spa 24 hours. So by then, the car was still in his possession, rebuilt with Eggenberger parts (instead of the Rouse parts in 1987, which weren't satisfactory for him). The picture shows a white car.
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Just found out the car did race at Zandvoort 1988, in the hands of Chris Bouwman and later Bolderheij. No results to get excited about.
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